My former friend has released a single.. When we met Jesse said she was either a 4 or a 6 and I said no, she's a 5 with 2. But she's not. She's an sp 2 with a very strong 5 second. I could go on and on about plays with dolls and wants to be one, and 'Fourish Two' and 'Help Me Two' and 'Ineffective Help'....
and now that I remembered I can just link the video instead of embedding it, I just may do.
Also she is probably FiSe in FeSi shadow (thanks people on fb now with 'Love and light' and such), though earlier I did think probably NiTe.
sp/SX 2w3(3w4)-5w6(6w7)-9w1(1w2) is something I'd bet twenty bucks on. WIthout the subwings two hundred.
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No, it has to be 5w6(4w5).
sp 2 is in and of itself very very Sixish.
Now I'm ready to bet the whole pot on the whole thing.
sp 2 is in and of itself very very Sixish.
Now I'm ready to bet the whole pot on the whole thing.
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Why an astonishicon again, Anthony? Does that seem wrong to you?
She's VERY withdrawn and VERY Fe-challenged and sp/SX decadent is not. Something else has to account for this.
She's VERY withdrawn and VERY Fe-challenged and sp/SX decadent is not. Something else has to account for this.
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I put a shockicon because she's an interesting typing and I don't recall ever hearing you say that Sp 2 is sixish in and of itself, though I agree and it isn't THAT surprising.
I agree with the typing; she should have something moving into the hole rather than only 2-->4 and sp/sx.
Her video iconography is, on the whole, fairly 'predictable' for a 2w3 singer—but SHE herself is not. She's very, very, VERY energetically 5ish, doesn't seem at all comfortable in her body, seems obviously social last, and her cries for a home seem...well, like the REAL kind, not the faux/imagistic 'hallmark card' version we've so often observed (inasmuch as they can be, for a 2w3).
I can't see her being anything other than sp/SX-->Sx/So.
I agree with the typing; she should have something moving into the hole rather than only 2-->4 and sp/sx.
Her video iconography is, on the whole, fairly 'predictable' for a 2w3 singer—but SHE herself is not. She's very, very, VERY energetically 5ish, doesn't seem at all comfortable in her body, seems obviously social last, and her cries for a home seem...well, like the REAL kind, not the faux/imagistic 'hallmark card' version we've so often observed (inasmuch as they can be, for a 2w3).
I can't see her being anything other than sp/SX-->Sx/So.
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She is very interesting typing-wise. Like I said I thought she was a 5 for some time, but as I got more familiar with how sp 2 is I came to doubt. She really 'wields helplessness' in life as in art and has an entitled expectation that it will come.
Note, however, I only bet $200, not $2000.
What sp 2 and 6 have in common is an excessive explicit preoccupation with support and the lack of it that can easily become desperate to deranged.
Note, however, I only bet $200, not $2000.
What sp 2 and 6 have in common is an excessive explicit preoccupation with support and the lack of it that can easily become desperate to deranged.
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I'll move her posts into the private section in and link them to this thread but it can stay here for a while til we start to hit those bright lights big city listen to the lullaby of ol' Broadway.
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Caroline has another video on youtube.. She also has a public facebook page and maybe a couple of radio interviews linked there. I'll see. The 2 and 5 are pretty much neck and neck and she certainly does a serious performative rendition of sx 2w3. But if you knew her you would know there is far more sp 2 princess in a tower than sx 2 seduction and aggression. Still, energetically, as disembodied as she is, she is very unusual for a 2w3 lead. But...I'm going to stick with the 2 leading by a nostril for now.
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I found this recorded interview. The intro to her starts around 7'40". The interview is very long, and from the pieces I heard so far it's a bit jarring for me specifically for...reasons...but whatever. It is what it is and she is who she is.
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Mail Order Annie brought me here via a comment. (Lyrics below).
Natalie Merchant may be another of these sp 2s (specifically 2w1) with 9 and 5--or 6 all the way in 5 as with Yoko, that family. She is energetically very similar to Heather Heying, though Heather is sx last, probably sp/SO, and Natalie seems more likely to be [sp/sx] maybe. Something more ghoulish to her. Image search young. I remember at eidb people saying she was 5 or 4. I don't know her work much but atm she is appealing to me much more so than then. I guess the 9 could lead. I'll look into her more.
Follow the typical signs, the hand-painted lines, down prairie roads
Pass the lone church spire
Pass the talking wire from where to who knows?
There's no way to divide the beauty of the sky from the wild western plains
Where a man could drift, in legendary myth, by roaming over spaces
The land was free and the price was right
Dakota on the wall is a white-robed woman, broad yet maidenly
Such power in her hand as she hails the wagon man's family
I see indians that crawl through this mural that recalls our history
Who were the homestead wives?
Who were the gold rush brides?
Does anybody know?
Do their works survive their yellow fever lives in the pages they wrote?
The land was free, yet it cost their lives
In miner's lust for gold. A family's house was bought and sold, piece by piece
A widow staked her claim on a dollar and his name, so painfully
In letters mailed back home her eastern sisters they would moan
As they would read accounts of madness, childbirth, loneliness and grief
Natalie Merchant may be another of these sp 2s (specifically 2w1) with 9 and 5--or 6 all the way in 5 as with Yoko, that family. She is energetically very similar to Heather Heying, though Heather is sx last, probably sp/SO, and Natalie seems more likely to be [sp/sx] maybe. Something more ghoulish to her. Image search young. I remember at eidb people saying she was 5 or 4. I don't know her work much but atm she is appealing to me much more so than then. I guess the 9 could lead. I'll look into her more.
Follow the typical signs, the hand-painted lines, down prairie roads
Pass the lone church spire
Pass the talking wire from where to who knows?
There's no way to divide the beauty of the sky from the wild western plains
Where a man could drift, in legendary myth, by roaming over spaces
The land was free and the price was right
Dakota on the wall is a white-robed woman, broad yet maidenly
Such power in her hand as she hails the wagon man's family
I see indians that crawl through this mural that recalls our history
Who were the homestead wives?
Who were the gold rush brides?
Does anybody know?
Do their works survive their yellow fever lives in the pages they wrote?
The land was free, yet it cost their lives
In miner's lust for gold. A family's house was bought and sold, piece by piece
A widow staked her claim on a dollar and his name, so painfully
In letters mailed back home her eastern sisters they would moan
As they would read accounts of madness, childbirth, loneliness and grief
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These are days
These are days you'll remember
Never before and never since
I promise
Will the whole world be warm as this
And as you feel it
You'll know it's true
That you are blessed and lucky
It's true that you
Are touched by something
That will grow in you, in you
These are days you'll remember
When May is rushing over you with desire
To be part of the miracles you see in every hour
You'll know it's true that you are blessed and lucky
It's true that you
Are touched by something
That will grow and bloom in you
These are days
These are the days you might fill with laughter until you break
These days you might feel a shaft of light
Make its way across your face
And when you do you'll know how it was meant to be
See the signs and know their meaning
It's true
You'll know how it was meant to be
Hear the signs and know they're speaking to you, to you