Dugin

[Roshan]

I found one from him about the new war. It's all about land and sea power. All. He read a book by this guy McKinder about land and sea power and after that everything made sense. This all-inclusive dichotimization reminds me of TPAS and the Jooz. Is it Ni inferior premature awakening? Is he SeFi?

He seems like an 8. Maybe sx/so with 6 all the way in 5 and 3 all the way in 4? He is somewhat similar to Castro, who I think is sx/SO 863.

[Roshan]

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[Roshan]

This smacks of AI but it's interesting.

Seems he is, or at any rate was, geekier than I would have thought. (I do not refer to the photo).

[Roshan]

I guess his political worldview is beta >>> gamma but...he seems 'Ni hoarding' Se and not to have 'seamless T'. I may be waaay off here...

[Vincent]

I first thought he was SeTi but the more i watch him the less i'm convinced he is indeed my dual.
I mean, i could see myself discussing philosophy and geopolitics with him all night long but i don't feel it would be that complementary.

I agree this stuff about reading McKinder and the "explosion of truth" sounds very much like one of those Ni inf epiphanies but .... the thing is, i don't really believe him here.
I got the feeling that McKinder's name got dropped there in large part because he was british, and not on the nazi spectrum.
I'm pretty sure he would tell another public he had his "explosion of Truth" reading Carl Smitt, or Haushofer or Evola.
Then the Big Dichotomy that makes sense of Everything would probably be different but the Great Game would be the same, since all dichotomies correlates with each others in the end..."in the structuralist sense".
He makes it sound as if he developed Geopolitics on his own from McKinder's book, with nothing in between and nothing on the side. "I deduced", "i derived", "i developed"....That smells like FeNi Ne 6th/Si polr to me. With Ti inf mechanical and premature reduction to axioms.

I think he could be another one of those beta War Drummers, and Putin's dual.

[Roshan]

I first thought he was SeTi but the more i watch him the less i'm convinced he is indeed my dual.

Right, he truly does not have 'seamless second row T'. And both Fi and Ni seem expedient...while his Se seems upper slot absolute value...which leaves....

tbcd

[Roshan]

Assuming this is true...

in as much as Ni is doom, why not FeNi creative, really? Out of oblivion, power.

I know he's that mystical but is he really that bellicose?

[Vincent]

Well, to be able to see Putin as some kind of angelic or messianic anti-Yeltsin, one has to be pretty damn close to "Deal with the Devil" imo.

And when he says that Operation Z isn't enough and that another spiritual step is needed, i can't help but shiver and remember he is also already thinking about it as a step into NATO territory in the Baltic States.
If memory serves, in his great eurasian vision, Russia should have some ports on... the Indian Ocean.

One thing i don't see him saying anytime soon is "let's heal", or even just "orare and laborare". No Si role here.

Seems to me he is about as bellicose as Henri Levy, who is probably his NeFi quasi-identical, just in a very different way.

Anyway, i agree with FeNi creative for him.
And it's quite the socion joke that him and Fukuyama might very well be kindreds. One irenical, one apocalyptical, both eschatological. Two faces of the Last Man at the End of History.

[Roshan]

Well, to be able to see Putin as some kind of angelic or messianic anti-Yeltsin, one has to be pretty damn close to "Deal with the Devil" imo.

Deal With The Devil 358, Prize Fighter 368, Boxing With God (The Ring of Fire) 468, The Exorcism 458. He is in there somewhere. Of course, when taking into account wing spans (the suggested 3 in 4, 6 in 5) there's a LOT of overlap, and it also depends on how much truth you want to assume those names contain. But I suspect the 358 is actually Mearsheimer (who would rather the US were focusing on its fleet near China, the real 'peer competitor'), and 4 and 6 double relativism, as it were, seems a lot for Dugin. But none seems too little. Double sovereign (8, 3), double warrior (6, 8) and counterphobic Doubt--one Offerer, but with more IN the 4 space--seems...fair. Anyway, this is how those second and third harmonic triad groups seem to help with typing.

[Vincent]

But none seems too little. Double sovereign (8, 3), double warrior (6, 8) and counterphobic Doubt--one Offerer, but with more IN the 4 space--seems...fair.

Yes, i'm pretty sure that's right.
He does seem to have a lot of 5, but no actual Alchemist fix.
Counterphobic doubt really fits,and so does Authoritarian Rebel.
Another thing is, despite all his mysticism he is still very very cartesian (and at times, in his debate with Henri Levy he sounds more like a french post-structuralist than him).

The second video you posted has pretty heavy gnostic undertones (an oxymoron already) but... that's a gnostic who is more eager to end this world than to transcend it. I agree he doesn't seem to have an actual 4 fix.

I will take another look at Mearsheimer soon.