Gram the Grownup #3 Tahanie Aboushi

[Vincent]

She's at healthy levels Jonathan. High 8 integrates 5.

I absolutely agree she is at healthy levels.
In the first video, she does talks a lot about transparency and the necessity to accumulate datas and scrutinize everything, for example the moment the police come into contact with the communities.
In the absence of a competency fix and the not unlikely absence of a 5 wing on the 6, it definitely sounds like integration of high 5 to me.
(Youtube is acting out for me right now, but i'll edit and add timestamps for this later).

Way too casual, straight forward motion for One. Anger and its restraint are non-issues for her. Easy come, easy go. And intermittently throughout second video, lust leaks. This won't happen with a low sx 1.

She definitely seems more "self-mighteous" than self-righteous to me, so to speak, and given her personal background and trajectory, it's pretty remarkable.
She is also pretty non-ideological and non-dogmatical and she doesn't sound that idealistic to me, especially for a progressive. I suspect that because of this a lot of staunch conservatives might actually like her, or at the very least would not instantly hate her, And i doubt he would get that impression if she was a low sx 1.

tbcd

[Jonathan]

To continue on my own part.... Camille Paglia is definitely self-mighteous (easy 8w9), can we put Tahanie in the same camp? I don't need to kick her out of it, but just wondering if she belongs in the same camp? Paglia is a creator, a leader, deft... a neck hanger-outer. Daring... had to settle for a smaller school to still be daring... daring.

That 'cops suck' is a really non-controversial angle to take at this point, esp when presented at a grass level media. Paglia has ideas that encompass terra firma. What system.... You suck as a man or woman.

[Roshan]

To continue on my own part.... Camille Paglia is definitely self-mighteous (easy 8w9), can we put Tahanie in the same camp?

Thomg retyped her on Ethan's site as 6w5 so/sp and I can really see it. All head with a lot of 6 L6 'authoritarian rebel. Hypervigilant eyes, very similar to Lady Gaga who if you look into her (I can provide materials if you want EDIT: more materials, there is one below) is a clear Six.



I don't need to kick her out of it, but just wondering if she belongs in the same camp?

Do Trump, Fidel Castro, Clark Gable, Martin Luther King, and Frank Sinatra all belong in the 'same camp'? Depends on how you look at the camp.

Paglia is a creator, a leader, deft... a neck hanger-outer. Daring... had to settle for a smaller school to still be daring... daring.

It's not daring for an unknown devout Muslim female Palestinian lawyer to run for DA of NYC and manage to get high profile left wing endorsements (including Bernie Sanders)? It's not being a leader?

Anyway what Paglia did to a large extent was take an existing tradition, with roots in Jung and in a highbrow academic, Mircea Eliade and an academic popularizer, Joseph Campbell, and stick to it when Academe and the world were changing (EDIT: More on this later, not in this post). Because of this she never interested me that much UNTIL I stumbled upon this interview, below (which was how I found out about Peterson)--when reading the flood of peak MeToo posts on fb gave me the shits. I thought, I HAVE to hear a woman who considers herself a leftist who's not going to trash men or I will surely go mad and I searched for her on yt and got this.



It was on that day that I realized just how brave she always had been in Academe. Original, not so much (EDIT: again, more on this later) but incredibly brave. I just hadn't fully realized how politically correct Academe and liberal society had become and how disconnected until the excesses of MeToo. But the operant word is 'brave' more than innovative--brave about standing up for a tradition (not to grandstanding on it). And bravery's not an ISSUE for 8s; they may tell you how magnificent they are; the Saddams may make huge statues of themselves, but they won't be like Paglia telling you every third sentence how brave she's been to stand up to 'all of them', how hard it was, how bad they've treated her. Is Paglia more like Viva's associate Barnes or this?




That 'cops suck' is a really non-controversial angle to take at this point,

Jonathan, that's the point. Tahanie's not an image type or a head type, she's not 'taking an angle'. She's the center of the moving center and she's just doing something, according to her own experience and world view.


esp when presented at a grass level media. Paglia has ideas that encompass terra firma. What system .... You suck as a man or woman.

Ideas as relates to a system is associated archetypally with the head, not 8. Of course there will always be a Zizek, who does appear to be some kind of a freakazoid 8, and I don't really care atm what Paglia is, but who I can compare Tahanie to is Grace Slick and
my late friend Valerie in the post below that.

They're all 8wNINE with 2w3 and 6w7. Even if Camille is an 8, she's still going to be 8wSEVEN all the way in 7 and other differences I can go into if you want. But yes, she's a much softer 8 than an 8 Paglia, or for that matter a MLK, or Viva's associate Barnes. But she must have won a lot of court cases to feel ready to run for DA.

And again, it's hard to understand how an unknown devout Muslim female Palestinian running for district attorney of NYC on whatever platform isn't bold.

[Jonathan]

And again, it's hard to understand how an unknown devout Muslim female Palestinian running for district attorney of NYC on whatever platform isn't bold.

You condensed it there.