Joan RIvers (comedian, entrepreneur)

[Anthony]

Look. At. People.

I don't know. I definitely felt that I was looking at and trying to be present to her, and I think I was. I know I consciously, intentionally tried to be.

Where I DO err, for instance, is in deciding who just 'can' and 'can't' be 9w8(8w7) fixed; where does that fix begin and end with people? It isn't always clear to me. You were presenting it as 'so obvious' that she isn't 9w8(8w7) fixed, and even though I still see her the same way I saw her after first looking (I never disagreed that she was Nancy Pelosi-ish), it wasn't obvious to me.

[Roshan]

It's not obvious to you that the woman in the interview I just put up isn't 9w8(8w7) fixed like Louis CK Anthony?

Really?

Because that woman has been on this thread for a long time.

[Anthony]

It's not obvious to you that the woman in the interview I just put up isn't 9w8(8w7) fixed like Louis CK Anthony?

Really?

Because that woman has been on this thread for a long time.

Between not knowing where her 8 fits into her configuration (which by virtue of her being a 7 lead is very much unlike Louis CK on the whole), the nature of her jokes, older Joan, little kid Joan, and especially me suggesting 9w1 and subsequently rejecting it while thinking it still had to be 9, no, it wasn't obvious to me. I don't know what to tell you. It isn't so easy for me to just say "she can't have 9w8(8w7) b/c that's what Louis CK has" when he's a guy, he LEADS with 9, probably has 3w2 and 6w7.

[Roshan]

I don't think you answered this question, Anthony.

"It's not obvious to you that the woman in the interview I just put up isn't 9w8(8w7) fixed like Louis CK?"

[Anthony]

I don't think you answered this question, Anthony.

"It's not obvious to you that the woman in the interview I just put up isn't 9w8(8w7) fixed like Louis CK?"

I feel like if that's the only interview I'd seen of her, I'd type her with 9w1(8w9). Off that interview alone it's clear to me that she isn't 9w8(8w7) fixed, but not clear that she doesn't have a 9 fix with movement to the 8 space.

[Anthony]

I don't know. I definitely felt that I was looking at and trying to be present to her, and I think I was. I know I consciously, intentionally tried to be.

[Roshan]

and even though I still see her the same way I saw her after first looking

So you see her after watching that 1966 interview the same way as when you gave the same exact gut and the heart on the same line as Louis CK.

[Anthony]

and even though I still see her the same way I saw her after first looking

So you see her after watching that 1966 interview the same way as when you gave the same exact gut and the heart on the same line as Louis CK.

Yes, but I saw young adult Joan as different from little kid and older age Joan, which I reflectively suppose 'contaminated' my overall impression. At the time of making my first few posts, 'older Joan' is the one that my typing was most influenced by. That isn't to say I IGNORED young adult/middle-aged Joan, though; 'she' is why I initially suggested 9w1 fix, but then soon took it back after watching older Joan. I was confused about her, saw her as very 8ish sometimes and not very 8ish others, and didn't know where to 'fit' the various typological components into a config that made sense.

I saw her the exact same way in that 1966 interview as I saw her in MANY scenes of the documentary in the OP and the subsequent videos linked throughout. But, I also always saw older Joan as different.

[Anthony]

Immediately after you asked me "You think this woman has 2w3 and 9 all the way in 8, Anthony?", I told you:

I get why you think she has more 1, but I really don’t see
her as 1 fixed (2w1 maybe), and I do see her as 9 fixed and not 9w1(1w2).

There is a problem with 9w8(8w7) in that she isn’t really burly enough for it, but…2w3 > 2w1 so far imo, I think she’s 9 fixed, and so far I think 8 > 1 overall.

which was both a summation of what I thought and an acknowledgment of the issue you were bringing up with her having 9w8(8w7).
A little bit after, you mentioned that she reminded you of Nancy Pelosi and I immediately agreed.
I was obviously very willing to hear you out and concede "no, not 9w8(8w7)." When I asked you elaborate, "It seems like you're suggesting she's too 1ish to have 9w8(8w7) and 2w3, if not, what were you suggesting?", you immediately told me, "I was suggesting what I said."
Then, as I somewhat defensively answered Vincent's questions to me, explaining what and why I think it, you repeated "But Louis CK has 9w8(8w7) and 2/3" multiple times."

[Roshan]

All's well that ends well. Will clean up and move thread back to public section later. Here's my suggested typing for her: sp/SO 7w66w5-9w18w9-2w13w2.