Gram the Grown Up #5 Jennifer O'Neill

[Roshan]

Choose one lead type. You can look at any other materials you want to--not that there are THAT many--but don't discuss until after the voting ends at midnight NYC time Saturday going into Sunday. I've been thinking about her because she was in the film Summer of 42, which plays on the tv set in The Shining and has therefore been commented on, with microscope, like every iota of Kubrick's film.

[Anthony]

I think she's a 3w2.

[Roshan]

She seems to be 'in the 2 space' and at times extremely Threeish, easily 3w2, others Oneish (at times could even be a 1). I split the difference by choosing 2w3 (all the way in 3) with a 1 fix. I'm very aware that energetically it doesn't seem to quite work through many of these materials but I think I can point to where it shows through that 2 >>> 3, for starters on the thumbnail of the last video but especially on some other stuff I saw. tbcd

[Roshan]

Please watch this interview. She is around 70 and while very youthful (all that horseback riding, I guess), obviously it's not a great idea to type people from vids when they're that old if other materials are available. But I haven't found the interviews we glimpsed in the compilation from when she was young and I felt there were times here she showed 2 > 3 energetically in a significant way that shouldn't be age-dependent. See what you think and look at other things with her too if you can.

[Vincent]

I initially voted 2w1 after quite a lot of back and forth between 3 and 2,and assuming she was 9 fixed.

At this point, i think Roshan is right that she is 1 fixed, and then she is very likely to lead with 2 all the way in 3.

She does seem 2 over 3 energetically in the last video, and i agree it shouldn't be age-dependent. Actually, i get the feeling not much changed between the three of them since Summer of '42 was shot, and especially not with her.

In most videos i've seen she tells the story of a very willfull girl who just loved horses and wanted to have her own. And it seems she is still that girl now at 70+.

What did change is that she was "looking for Love in all the wrong places" until she finally got into a love affair with God, All of which sounds very twoish to me.

[Roshan]

What did change is that she was "looking for Love in all the wrong places" until she finally got into a love affair with God, All of which sounds very twoish to me.

"I met a very powerful man in New York, the man I was going to spend the rest of my life with".

That's all she says about the man who would be to determine her one true love affair with the most powerful man--God--out of atonement for elimination of The Child.

He was powerful and she was going to be next to him.

But I myself have annotated time stamps in the last video I posted where I felt you could really see that there was more Pride than Deceit (let alone Wrath), where lead fixation Deceit would not show the pride energetically, and I wanted to know if anyone else comes up with something similar.

For either type.

[Vincent]

But I myself have annotated time stamps in the last video I posted where I felt you could really see that there was more Pride than Deceit (let alone Wrath), where lead fixation Deceit would not show the pride energetically, and I wanted to know if anyone else comes up with something similar.

Ok, i'll rewatch it soon (hopefully tonight, else tomorrow morning) and see what i can come up with.

[Amy]

I originally voted 3w2, but I was torn between that and 2w3 initially depending on the video. (I think it was the third video that had me leaning towards 2w3, but I still decided on 3w2). My impression of her was that she was also sp/so, and it was hard to see her as an sp 2 despite her 'faith based humanitarian pursuits'. I also think she's FeSi, maybe TeSi, but I'd believe Te role over Te dominant if she's going to have a 3 over 2 fix. She's definitely 'business minded', but it's about the business of the people (whichever group that happens to be at the time). After watching the latest interview, I'm going to stick with my vote. I do agree with Vincent though, that I also originally assumed she had a 9 fix, but am now leaning towards her having a 1 (probably 1w2) fix. I don't have a strong impression on her head fix, but I'm guessing 6w7. Her 'defend the defenseless' stance could come from a strong 2 influence as well, but I think there's some 6 in there still.

[-Sarah-]

When I initially voted on her type. I was juggling between 3w2, 2w3, and even 2w1. Early on I had a feeling that she was 1 fixed, so that eliminated 2w1. After that, I had trouble choosing between 2w3 and 3w2, however Amy makes a good distinguishing point about her business being people (rather than purely about production). After watching her 4way interview, 2 core solidified for me and I rewatched her videos with a new lens and the 2 is hard to unsee.

There is something hokey about her and that's a quality that I associate with 2 rather than 3. She's also so archetypally and elementally feminine. It's not something that she has to devote too much conscious psychic energy towards, she is The Woman. With that, seduction is just as natural to her as breathing. She automatically assumes the role of the Goddess and it doesn't feel contrived.

[Roshan]

. I also think she's FeSi, maybe TeSi, but I'd believe Te role over Te dominant if she's going to have a 3 over 2 fix.

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3 correlates very highly with Te; 2 (especially 2w3) correlates very highly with Fe. So she's more likely to have Te dominant if she's a 3 and Te role if she's a 2.