David Fuller (with the beard) is imho a TiSe who one might say was miraged by Peterson (a very high Ti TeNi) into leaving his mainstream journalism career to go with this 'glitch in the matrix'. He formed Rebel Wisdom with Allie. But what is Allie's ct--and hence their intertype relationship?
(Vote by midnight this Saturday NYC time going into Sunday. Choose two votes, one for Allie, one for Fuller. You can look at any other materials on them that you want).
In the beginning...
At the end...
CT Adult Poll Dance #4 Alexander Biener
CT Adult Poll Dance #4 Alexander Biener
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Answer this here, please, Amy.
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Okay, so Vincent didn't vote on this one because we'd already discussed it previously and we agreed, so when I made it into a poll I told him to just vote if he changed his mind, and he didn't. And one of the options given is the same as ours, so first of all:
would these answers be 'jumpers' or not, so NeTi or NeFe; FeSi or FeNe? Also any other special factor about these answers, like an enhanced fourth slot (parallel development, pipeline, peacocking), high aura or low shadow, very counterphobic PolR...?
Anthony, Amy, e-ssam
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(ps Sorry, I forgot to factor in how early I've been going to sleep. There really isn't any point now to my closing polls at midnight. It should either be at 10 pm or the next morning).
would these answers be 'jumpers' or not, so NeTi or NeFe; FeSi or FeNe? Also any other special factor about these answers, like an enhanced fourth slot (parallel development, pipeline, peacocking), high aura or low shadow, very counterphobic PolR...?
Anthony, Amy, e-ssam
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(ps Sorry, I forgot to factor in how early I've been going to sleep. There really isn't any point now to my closing polls at midnight. It should either be at 10 pm or the next morning).
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I had NeTi with a pipeline in mind. Nothing from the videos though got me seeing supervision.
I found this this morning
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The site says he leads Rebel Wisdom's live experiences too, which doesn't have to be much in itself. But I wonder if FeNe might fit better.
I think an NeTi, even with a pipeline, would still focus more on the mechanisms of psychedelics and how they'd relate to cognition more, rather than a hero's journey of sorts to unlock potential and new contexts. More like how the processes themselves affect, but I don't see that from him.
And semi-duality seems like a better relational fit than an unequal one.
I think an NeTi, even with a pipeline, would still focus more on the mechanisms of psychedelics and how they'd relate to cognition more, rather than a hero's journey of sorts to unlock potential and new contexts. More like how the processes themselves affect, but I don't see that from him.
And semi-duality seems like a better relational fit than an unequal one.
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I agree. I think he's an obvious FeNe. And one I always assumed to be high enough health to account for why he didn't grate on me as a conflictor (although watching how RW ended, not so sure about that now).
The video you linked seems to be a clear sustained use of Te role (without NiSe force behind it). And the fact that by 3'25" we've already seen our very own first picture of a mushroom (yippee); that he's told us he lives in two worlds--sensemaking, as in RW, and psychedelics (or is it psychedelic sensemaking, well, whatever, no matter)--and it never occurred to him to bridge them before, pretty much ruling out NT; and that he's also told us, blushing like a bride. to let him know whether he 'sells' us his ideas pretty much guarantees Fe dom.
This person seems to swim in a sea of his own adorableness that he is certain so seamlessly reflects the world that it is a priori embraced; this is a cognitive perception that falls under Auburn's ''adaptive' Fe and that seem to me clearly frame. The only N dom that even approaches this is NeFi, with its Fe demo in a chronic rutting season, mentally humping everyone always. But Allie's clearly alpha; he's not nearly jaded enough for delta NF, so FeNe it is.
That said, why did you initially see him as NeTi with an Si pipeline rather than NeFe jumping over Ti, e-ssam?
The video you linked seems to be a clear sustained use of Te role (without NiSe force behind it). And the fact that by 3'25" we've already seen our very own first picture of a mushroom (yippee); that he's told us he lives in two worlds--sensemaking, as in RW, and psychedelics (or is it psychedelic sensemaking, well, whatever, no matter)--and it never occurred to him to bridge them before, pretty much ruling out NT; and that he's also told us, blushing like a bride. to let him know whether he 'sells' us his ideas pretty much guarantees Fe dom.
This person seems to swim in a sea of his own adorableness that he is certain so seamlessly reflects the world that it is a priori embraced; this is a cognitive perception that falls under Auburn's ''adaptive' Fe and that seem to me clearly frame. The only N dom that even approaches this is NeFi, with its Fe demo in a chronic rutting season, mentally humping everyone always. But Allie's clearly alpha; he's not nearly jaded enough for delta NF, so FeNe it is.
That said, why did you initially see him as NeTi with an Si pipeline rather than NeFe jumping over Ti, e-ssam?
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Re: CT Adult Poll Dance #4 Alexander Biener
The first joke he cracked in the end of RW video was a mycelium joke. Roshan 
He also kept going back to graphs, that weren't really like maps, just more like points of reference which he'd then try to expand from in the conversation.
In the first video, he seemed more grounded and Fe wise not very overt. I think NeFe would be more like wild-ish bulldogs of sorts with Fe, and jump on every opportunity to showcase it. Though I'm probably mistaking Se role here.
Alpha extravert seemed clear from the star but didn't make me go "aw schucks, but no." enough in the second to go with FeSi/FeNe.
So I assumed NeTi that has a focus on groundedness and energy control (if that's the right word?).
However, I think if I had considered "NeFe with a pipeline"...I probably would've ended up landing on FeSi with more certainty at first. Since NT doesn't make much sense.
He also kept going back to graphs, that weren't really like maps, just more like points of reference which he'd then try to expand from in the conversation.
In the first video, he seemed more grounded and Fe wise not very overt. I think NeFe would be more like wild-ish bulldogs of sorts with Fe, and jump on every opportunity to showcase it. Though I'm probably mistaking Se role here.
Alpha extravert seemed clear from the star but didn't make me go "aw schucks, but no." enough in the second to go with FeSi/FeNe.
So I assumed NeTi that has a focus on groundedness and energy control (if that's the right word?).
However, I think if I had considered "NeFe with a pipeline"...I probably would've ended up landing on FeSi with more certainty at first. Since NT doesn't make much sense.
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Which presupposes that you had a strong preference for Ne frame over Fe frame for him to begin with. But why?
What NeTi's did you find him comparable to, e-ssam?
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Out of all those nicknames ascribed to the MBTI types popularly for better or for worse, ENTP 'The Debater 'seems to me about the best.
It's the nature of both NeTi and SeTi, due to seamless second row T with Te demo and to Fi PolR's disregard for the interlocutor's experiences, to debate chronically. But Se frame being Se frame, a lot of its tactics become just mow down. Whereas NeTi's berry foraging hunter gatherer nature nickel and dimes you to death with picayune 'proofs'.
Ne is reaching for an abstract idea of the future. Ti tool picks discrete idea berries to bolster it and Te demo 'proves' it rhetorically, incorporating Si data. The NeTi's I'm aware of who don't debate like it's part of breathing are jumpers because they don't TheorIze as much.
When does Allie debate? What does Allie want to prove?
It's the nature of both NeTi and SeTi, due to seamless second row T with Te demo and to Fi PolR's disregard for the interlocutor's experiences, to debate chronically. But Se frame being Se frame, a lot of its tactics become just mow down. Whereas NeTi's berry foraging hunter gatherer nature nickel and dimes you to death with picayune 'proofs'.
Ne is reaching for an abstract idea of the future. Ti tool picks discrete idea berries to bolster it and Te demo 'proves' it rhetorically, incorporating Si data. The NeTi's I'm aware of who don't debate like it's part of breathing are jumpers because they don't TheorIze as much.
When does Allie debate? What does Allie want to prove?
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