CT Adult Poll Dance #4 Alexander Biener

[e-ssam]

Alpha extravert seemed clear from the star but didn't make me go "aw schucks, but no." enough in the second to go with FeSi/FeNe.

Which presupposes that you had a strong preference for Ne frame over Fe frame for him to begin with. But why?

What NeTi's did you find him comparable to, e-ssam?
I don't think there are NeTi's I'm sure of that remind me of him. I wasn't thinking about anyone in particular either while watching the videos, NeTi or FeSi.
Off the top of my head, I don't know FeSis either that were strikingly similar at first but I can see more similarties with WSS jack now (in terms of social role played) .


I think the vote option had my head more in the "NeTi" direction from the start. So i ended up trying to rule out the alternative. I assumed the lack of argumentation or attempts to steelman David's points were just then the context of the video.
I did think about similar NeTi's though in the morning before checking the site and I couldn't think of any. Then, after seeing the vote option & presentation video, i got out of that.

[Roshan]

I don't think there are NeTi's I'm sure of that remind me of him.

You don't think there are any that you're sure of, or there aren't any, e-ssam?

[e-ssam]

There aren't any, Roshan.

[Roshan]

Also, you said his Fe in the first video isn't overt. If his Fe isn't overt there, whose is, e-ssam?

Who do you see as having 'overt Fe'?

[Roshan]

Alpha adaptive Fe, e-ssam. If not him, who?

[e-ssam]

I meant overt more as in the face & annoyingly so, the bubbly sort.
NeTis have their try-hard social moments. I don't know any NeFes, but I assumed there would be something similar and maybe stronger with them.

That being said, jumpers should have more range with their agenda, so the assumption doesn't make sense, Roshan.

Alpha adaptive Fe, e-ssam. If not him, who?

Auburn has it as well, and it isn't the bubbly sort either.

[Roshan]

I meant overt more as in the face & annoyingly so, the bubbly sort.
NeTis have their social faux pas moments when very tryhard. There aren't NeFes that I know of, but I assumed there'd be something similar and maybe stronger with them.
That being said, jumpers should have more range with their agenda, so that assumption doesn't make sense, Roshan.

Alpha adaptive Fe, e-ssam. If not him, who?

Auburn has it as well, and it isn't the bubbly sort either.

Why don't you make your post legible, dear, so we CAN discuss what does or doesn't make sense?

I gave you a suggestion to start off with.

e-ssam

[e-ssam]

fixed it, Roshan.

[Roshan]

Okay, I'm trying to work some things out here....

Anthony, what was your typing trajectory with Alexander Biener? Did you consider Ne dom? What other types (if any) other than FeSi did you consider? Did you see him as specifically FeNe or as FeSi? Etc.

[Roshan]

In my experience and undertanding...

I believe I have had two NeFe yoga teachers. One of them opened his own kundalini yoga studio and the other was the head of yoga teaching at a large community center that was/is an offshoot of the Hare Krishnas. What kundalini yoga as often practiced here and now and the hare krishna movement have in common is they set out to attain the equivalent of a psychedelic experience without drugs. So in the kundalini studio this guy could and would babble on or whatever and would encourage his other teachers to do so too, it was 'anything goes'. And the hare center WAS teaching standard vinyasa practice (with the intoxicating repetitive chanting only happening in prolonged form in separate meetings called kirtans) but he too would babble on. Aaaaaand there was muuuusic....and sound baaaaths.....a very far cry from the very raja yoga practices I'd done. The goal was stimulation.

The goal was stimulation and as often as not the means were fantastic. For instance so many hours of kundalini would work off so much karma of my ancestors, stories of the child Krishna that were beautiful fairy tales....you can see what I mean by jumping over Ti. They genuinely leap frogged over ANY striving for logical first principles. The first principles were ALL stories, traditions. It was like sewer level Ti; the first principals were pre-logical, aboriginal Si.

But the Te was enhanced, it was all about the doing and efficiency, which is why one of them opened his own studio--not an easy feat with NYC rents--and the other had this high position in a very large community while still in his twenties. And the thing is, the amplified Te made them just as rigid as the Si constipated non-jumping NeTi's like Eric and Jocko the Futurist. In different ways and for different reasons than them but just as rigid.

And they form my impression of NeFe jumpers but admittedly two is a very poor statistical sampling.