Members should put exemplars of NeFi's they feel reasonably sure of. Other members should watch the videos at their earliest convenience and like them ONLY if they agree with the typing. If you don't agree say why and/or suggest a different type. We can always make separate typing threads for disputed exemplars. We will cull exemplars for the Study Hall from these threads. If you don't see a thread yet for the type of an exemplar you want to post (ct or E), just create one.
Don't like the videos on this thread unless you agree they are NeFi.
NeFi Exemplars for Review
NeFi Exemplars for Review
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Re: NeFi Exemplars for Review
Vincenzo occasionally will speak of Roman elder statesmen sipping wine sitting on their laurels while watching Rome burn and providing running commentary. I think I may have stumbled upon their King.
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Re: NeFi Exemplars for Review
Watched about half an hour so far but yes, i'm already pretty positive he deserves that title.
@24'38''
"Dude, everything is so interconnected !
... and so fragile !"
Those NeFis are as aware as SiTes that civilization is a veneer, but with Ne frame, instrumental Fi and just a tad of Se role, they just watch it crackles with Schadenfreude.
It actually makes perfect sense that they are Dugin's quasi-identicals.
I'll finish watching soon, but my impression so far is that he is also very much Si inf and Ni ignoring, ie not really discerning, but... tbcd.
@24'38''
"Dude, everything is so interconnected !
... and so fragile !"
Those NeFis are as aware as SiTes that civilization is a veneer, but with Ne frame, instrumental Fi and just a tad of Se role, they just watch it crackles with Schadenfreude.
It actually makes perfect sense that they are Dugin's quasi-identicals.
I'll finish watching soon, but my impression so far is that he is also very much Si inf and Ni ignoring, ie not really discerning, but... tbcd.
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Re: NeFi Exemplars for Review
Well actually, Si inf and Ti polr are there right from the start
"Before we had that (globalization), if you didn't have oil locally, you didn't have transport fuel, if you didn't have coal locally, you didn't have electricity, if you didn't have food locally, you didn't have a population".
Sounds logical and fair enough but... it implies that globalization started after industralization, rather than along with it and that, at some point,somewhere, people in the industrial world were sitting there with dark houses and empty cars because globalization wasn"t a thing yet and America had yet to force evil nationalist people to stop hoarding their oil, their coal and their genes for themselves.
That's a pretty biased and twisted story. A very delta one too.
It only "works" (kind of) if by "globalization" you actually mean "Pax Americana since the NATO creation", or something close to that.Most scholars would disagree with that, and would set the start of the globalization process way earlier, its birthplace in Europe rather than in America, and would see technological development and economical evolution as intertwinned.
I mean, it's not just that globalization gave us oil and electricity (Hallelujah !), it's that oil and electricity allowed globalization to begin with and it's as much production based as it is "consumption based".
But Ti polr/Te agenda wants a nice mechanical model with a simple unidirectional causal chain, so there goes the nuances.
tbcd.
"Before we had that (globalization), if you didn't have oil locally, you didn't have transport fuel, if you didn't have coal locally, you didn't have electricity, if you didn't have food locally, you didn't have a population".
Sounds logical and fair enough but... it implies that globalization started after industralization, rather than along with it and that, at some point,somewhere, people in the industrial world were sitting there with dark houses and empty cars because globalization wasn"t a thing yet and America had yet to force evil nationalist people to stop hoarding their oil, their coal and their genes for themselves.
That's a pretty biased and twisted story. A very delta one too.
It only "works" (kind of) if by "globalization" you actually mean "Pax Americana since the NATO creation", or something close to that.Most scholars would disagree with that, and would set the start of the globalization process way earlier, its birthplace in Europe rather than in America, and would see technological development and economical evolution as intertwinned.
I mean, it's not just that globalization gave us oil and electricity (Hallelujah !), it's that oil and electricity allowed globalization to begin with and it's as much production based as it is "consumption based".
But Ti polr/Te agenda wants a nice mechanical model with a simple unidirectional causal chain, so there goes the nuances.
tbcd.
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