I already told Vincent at length about the video Greg Foreman (FeNi) made about the Twitter argument between Kim Iversen (TeSi) and Matt Walsh (SeTi) over transgender teens, so I'll post this one Kim made in response to Greg's video first. (Got that straight? ).
Haven't watched but the opening yet, but I hadn't realized Kim actually has Greg ON. This is the first time I've ever seen Greg in discussion with anyone, let alone anyone from my side of the mountain. So this should be verrrrry interesting.
Kim and Matt Walsh are quasi-identicals on opposite sides of the 'mission' quasis require so they can identify with each other, and both being extraverts they seem to have locked histrionic horns on Twitter like contraries or conflictors. But the irony is they wound up acting even more identically than if they had felt identified.
Greg is of course Matt Walsh's activity partner, and this is part of why (at least at the beginning) he looks so uncomfortable. But there's a lot more to it than that, and tbcd.
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Well, I watched Kim and Greg and there's lots to say but for now: Kim's views are a lot more nuanced than she showed on Twitter. I suspect she just wanted to have a fight with Matt Walsh and be as crude and blunt as she perceives him to be, and she has paid a price as this was reckless. Ne agenda gets reckless when its flag-planting tropism gets all revved up.
This thing has legs. Greg just popped up in a mashup video about uniting left and right on Hard Lens Media. (I found him first! ) And speaking of Ne flag-planting, the Vanguard's take on the Kim/Walsh melee has been particularly vaingod. So much so that I actually took the time to rebut it. It is just unbelievable what Ne can be willing to ignore in order to remain the coolest person in high school forever. (And if the high school changes, who knows how the wind blows... )
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Roshan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:35 am
So much so that I actually took the time to rebut it.
My comments are under "Fane Manelistu". I got an interlocutor and the opportunity to start to crystallize my presentation on this issue. Perhaps you might even go so far as to say I'm in extinguisher mode with Gavin but he really got my goat today. Both of them did, with their spurious, selectively blind arguments bathed in relentless smugness. The pedantry of Ne dominant really rankles here.
fwiw Gavin (NeTi) is Kim's beneficiary and Zak (NeFi) is her activity partner and tbcd.
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What originally inspired me to post about this was Greg's contention in his video that Kim, Jimmy Dore, and the rest of the 'libertarian left' don't care about culture issues and use them to create a base to drive through their economic agenda--with concomitant caveat to his base to approach us with caution. Once you have the culture you have the economics, we calculate, claims he.
This is a low Si (because category error, and also somewhat psycopathically cold), first or third slot Se (because might makes right and everyone must be the same way too really), beta (because my team or the highway) perspective. If Gregg would only substitute 'neoliberals' for 'libertarian left' and 'power' for 'economics', he'd be right on the money about the driving mechanism in the modern political landscape/infestation. But it ain't happening with Kim or Jimmy Dore. All of which fascinates me, and that's what I was going to focus because I didn't expect Kim and Matt Walsh's spat to have so many tentacles.
But it has. And the way Kim argues with Greg brings to mind this recent cringe argufest on crime and punishment by Briahna Joy Gray--FeSi and Kim's business partner and partner in Ni PolR crime. I gotta sat Ni PolR can reach criminal levels. And it's maddening, with FeSi's being more maddening even than the Ni ignoring we just saw above from the vaingod. Though oc they didn't have anyone to challenge them but if they had they would have sounded more like Kim than Briahna).
Kim is not nas maddening as Briahna once she has a 'good faith' interlocutor because, T being T, her (healthy) Te frame will make the necessary concessions in to maintain the semblance of a logical throughline. Not so BJG!, who plows through logic 'like a speedboat run amok in a dream', Harvard law degree and years working with Nathan Robinson and his Yale law degree in hand.
While me, I'm still trying to figure out: Ni PolR, just what is it exactly? And by extension, Ni, whaddat?
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Fellow TeSi Blaire White contacted Kim, I assume in large part to school her on where her excesses lay. Which is somewhat ironic, because I'd say Blaire is higher Ne than Kim. But she also sees things from the inside where it's easier to separate the wheat from the chaff. Yes, we do need more restrictions on kids for these measures than Kim thinks.
But further down the irony path, Blaire misses that she herself was always very petitie and feminine, so waiting is going to have more negative consequences for many, measuring in terms of desired gender traits physically, than for her. However, the 'side effects' of puberty blockers do render this somewhat of a moot point.
Another issue not touched here--and this (and the above) have to do with Ni polr--is why should bottom surgery even be legal? There are VERY good reasons why Blaire didn't get this surgery and why probably less than a third do, but Blaire implicitly assumes it'll all work out soon enough, it'll be fine, the science just isn't there 'yet'.Typical Ne agenda 'onedayism'.
Well, how many guinea pigs are there going to be and for how many (hundreds of) years suffering the consequences of these gruesome mad scientist procedures until the science starts to 'be there', and on what basis should they be selected or not?
There is more to say on this. And always will be.
Not least of all the thumbnail Kim chose. Yes, indeed, you are identicals, Kimchi.
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Roshan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:35 am
It is just unbelievable what Ne can be willing to ignore in order to remain the coolest person in high school forever. (And if the high school changes, who knows how the wind blows... )
Yes, but in a way, it always end Vincent up blowing up in the same direction after a while.
I was just rewatching this one and it struck me that right from the start they are talking about "transphobe losers".
Losers. One of the dumbest buzzword Vincent of the ladder-climbing Delta Right of the 80s...
And one that shows that this is and always will be just a game for them, a game they are very happy with as long as they can sit in the arbiter's chair, look down on everybody else, count the points and comment Vincent missing preposition the match...
tbcd.
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of the ladder-climbing Delta Right of the 80s...