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Here's an interview when she's somewhat older and is being asked a question by a probable FeSi woman in the audience. You can see the contrast. (There are no subtitles but it doesn't really matter). A dual is a complement, not a similar.

But if I understood, (Vincent?) she has been asked why she did not sing for a certain project (about Ethiopia) and she answers as though she were giving a history lesson. She COULD have skirted the issue by answering with her own sweeping preferences and judgements about the SItuation, but she doesn't. She has to SItuate it all. She sequences everything (Si) to give the most objective (Ti) answer, reflexively framing the response as part of the historical record, a codex. Si and Ti valuer in the content as well as in the very centered, not effusive, energy.

In the early interview she switched on the Fe tool, yes, but she is actually not that at home with it. Chantal Goya wanted to be a journalist and got 'swept' into music, then film, then into children's music. It was an odd combination of being swept and putting her foot down. Because she had been swept into film, she did not care if she was swept out by refusing to do a nude scene, for example. Her personal values, which seem to be Fi sixth with Si first, trumped the instrumental Fe every time and that's how she wound up being a children's singer.

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:26 pm She COULD have skirted the issue by answering with her own sweeping preferences and judgements about the SItuation, but she doesn't.

Skirting with sweeping preferences and judgements is also an aspect of 'charm', which is steroidal Fe.

It seems she had the ability to charm others but did not value it unless it served her Si-->Ti agenda, and working with children is a good place for that because they are innocent. With kids you can always say you are watering the Druid tree; it's all about their growth.

Not so with entertaining adults.

Apparently, when Godard told her she would never be a 'vedette' if she didn't do a nude scene, she said she already had a Vedette at home, her washing machine. (It was the name brand).

I'm not saying an FeSi couldn't do this or an SiFe always would, just putting together puzzle pieces. The centeredness of Si frame and the efFUsiveness of Fe are like centripetal v. centriFUgal force.

Chantal Goya felt centered in her home life to such extent that she was somewhat immune to the temptations of FamE.

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:26 pm But if I understood, (Vincent?) she has been asked why she did not sing for a certain project (about Ethiopia) and she answers as though she were giving a history lesson. She COULD have skirted the issue by answering with her own sweeping preferences and judgements about the SItuation, but she doesn't. She has to SItuate it all. She sequences everything (Si) to give the most objective (Ti) answer, reflexively framing the response as part of the historical record, a codex. Si and Ti valuer in the content as well as in the very centered, not effusive, energy.

Yes, that's exactly what she was asked and that's exactly what she does.
She really really sounds like an history teacher here and the contrast is SO obvious.

And interestingly enough, when she goes back to the Source (the singer Renaud), she insists to present him as an author, and a great one, which doesn't sound FeSi-ish, but seems consistent with Ne seeking.

It's also interesting that the next question (the one that makes her freak out) is asked by a teacher, almost certainly a delta one (either TeSi or SiTe), accusing her of making the kids dumber.

In the early interview she switched on the Fe tool, yes, but she is actually not that comfortable with it. Chantal Goya wanted to be a journalist and got 'swept' into music, then film, then into children's music. It was an odd combination of being swept and putting her foot down. Because she had been swept into film, she did not care if she was swept out by refusing to do a nude scene, for example. Her personal values, which seem to be Fi sixth with Si first, trumped the instrumental Fe every time and that's how she wound up being a children's singer.

Yes, that sounds exactly right to me, and at that point, i don't even think she has to be creative subtype.
If anything, she might be closer to SiTi jumper actually.

Wiki on the song 'Ethiopie' that is being discussed.

Vincent wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:39 pm

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:26 pm But if I understood, (Vincent?) she has been asked why she did not sing for a certain project (about Ethiopia) and she answers as though she were giving a history lesson. She COULD have skirted the issue by answering with her own sweeping preferences and judgements about the SItuation, but she doesn't. She has to SItuate it all. She sequences everything (Si) to give the most objective (Ti) answer, reflexively framing the response as part of the historical record, a codex. Si and Ti valuer in the content as well as in the very centered, not effusive, energy.

Yes, that's exactly what she was asked and that's exactly what she does.
She really really sounds like an history teacher here and the contrast is SO obvious.
...

If anything, she might be closer to SiTi jumper actually.

Well, she does sound like a history teacher and the contrast IS very obvious, and she might also be something of a jumper, but having now relistened to it several times what I first said really doesn't seem to be exactly what's going on, Vincent.

I tried auto-translating the video with the probable FeSi woman, but it didn't really help. Anyhow, I do see the contrast, and I agree it's quite obvious. She's always cute , but she [actively] charms very selectively. Sometimes, she actually seems pretty devoid of emotion, prone to being easily irritated in an Sp-first-ish way, not really hiding it, etc.—the Fe is too frequently 'off' for Fe dominance to make sense, I agree.

And Roshan,

...and working with children is a good place for that because they are innocent. With kids you can always say you are watering the Druid tree; it's all about their growth.

This is EXACTLY the impression I get from her.

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 5:32 pm Well, she does sound like a history teacher and the contrast IS very obvious, and she might also be something of a jumper, but having now relistened to it several times what I first said really doesn't seem to be exactly what's going on, Vincent.

Hmm, the trick i used yesterday to access the video (which is banned in France for copyright reasons) doesn't seem to work at the moment, so i can't check right now. Will try again later.
From what i remember she also says at the end that she does a lot of things for children but that she doesn't publicize them,and keep them private "in her heart" .
Which also seems Fi (6th) over Fe.

Dr. Calum Miller FeSi creative?

(He reminds me a bit of the master of the World Socionics Synod).