Konstantin Kisin (Triggernometry)

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You don't actually have to badger people into submission.

(but if you had to you would. But you don't have to, you just go with the counterflow..

Among other things, Triggernometry is a trap he laid down in the forest primeval to ensnare and expose enemy ideas, on the path of least resistance.).
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He seems to be extremely healthy and this health seems to be a product of an upbringing by healthy parents. So lifelong high health.

If he were even just at average levels, his social lastness, and his sheer blood lust, would be a lot more obvious.

He is a binger. That's why he keeps changing careers. Time to binge. And he 359ishy erodes at himself. He's like a slow burning candle consuming his own wick.

And everything, everything, comes down to sp for him. People are afraid to speak in public because we inherit an understanding that it's dangerous. People won't give up their nutter ideas because they put food on the table. That's it.

He is not one of us. He's just permanently slumming. His parents gave him a conscience. He's on the right side of the tracks, seeing how the other half lives.
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@51'19"- 52'15"

This man has no social shame. None.

His fear of public speaking that propelled him into it in a bingelike 'downward pull' was primal, not social. It wasn't about people per se; it was about being out of his element.

Which, being a mega-careerist/survivalist, intrigued him--perversely.
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sp/sx 9w11w2-3w42w3-5w6-6w7.

Nothing in the hole. Everything from out of a hole.

But Health Level 1 The Self-Possessed Person.
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@55'41"-56'49"

He is imo a TiSi who often sounds gamma due to integration of his shadow stack, but he's energetically very Si >>>> Se. This section pretty much sums up what I've been trying to point out about him and also what it has to do with dealing with his Se PolR.

So I suppose we can say he is sp/sx 'prey' and that probably will have some correlation to Se PolR.

Otherwise the house of cards falls apart with the stacking and we have to start over but in that case it has to be so/SP. He is very removed from 'the rest of us'.

Normally the L1 9 Self-Possessed Person should still be far less aloof. Another thing about this section is that it highlights how his 3 comes before his 5 (giving 'value'), as did the previous section with its unflinchingly brazen albeit aloof self-promoting marketing orientation. Anthony
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Wow…

Well, at least I got the fixes and order right.

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Well...

first of all he is weird a.f. He is energetically truly bizarre. If you saw him walking around the suburban mall you would either not notice him at all or you would wonder what he's up to. He is just not 'one of us'. (Doesn't exist AND 'over-exists'). So in the absence of something on the 4/5 line (and he doesn't have it), it has to be counterflow. Second, like I said, he is ALL about sp and it really should jump out at you every other word if you rewatch the last video. And this is all very important, but...

at the end of the day I am a 6 and I am a very simple person. So, realistically, if you're hesitating between sx/sp, so/sp, and sp/so.......

that's where to start. Start again. :madgrin:
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Roshan wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:33 am @55'41"-56'49"

Normally the L1 9 Self-Possessed Person should still be far less aloof. Another thing about this section is that it highlights how his 3 comes before his 5 (giving 'value), as did the previous section with its unflinchingly brazen albeit aloof self-promoting marketing orientation. Anthony
Yes, I caught onto this.

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Roshan wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:43 am Well...

first of all he is weird a.f. He is energetically truly bizarre. If you saw him walking around the suburban mall you would either not notice him at all or you would wonder what he's up to. He is just not 'one of us'. (Doesn't exist AND 'over-exists'). So in the absence of something on the 4/5 line (and he doesn't have it), it has to be counterflow. Second, like I said, he is ALL about sp and it really should jump out at you every other word if you rewatch the last video. And this is all very important, but...

at the end of the day I am a 6 and I am a very simple person. So, realistically, if you're hesitating between sx/sp, so/sp, and sp/so.......

that's where to start. Start again. :madgrin:
I really don’t think I would’ve gotten that he was sp/sx. I was starting to catch onto his focus on sp, but I wouldn’t have gotten to sp/sx if you hadn’t pointed it out, probably.

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The issue now is with how to reconcile sp/sx and Se PolR, though of course he would be a major jumper.

This guy is a freak. The biggest freaks are the ones who don't immediately seem in your face freakish. People where you wonder: HOW do they manage to pass as normal, or even...human, frankly.
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