'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris

[Anthony]

Not only does he have this 'charmingly British' style of expression, but he has this way of animating all of his sentences with intermittent "oomphs" behind his words, almost as if to make up for a kind of self-conscious insubstantiality and 'teach the viewer' from lofty heights. I really, really can't see him as anything other than So/Sp—specifically so/SP. He gloms onto his viewers, leaning forward, tilting his chin up and away while still training his eyes on you, always keeping his arms close by his sides, and gripping his chair to still himself. This really does not seem like somebody with a blindspot for 'the shared space between self and other' a la Social.

He's a bit nerve-wracking to watch. He seems obviously head leading to me, and even though there's something seemingly self-abasing about him, I'm inclined to keep him on the 5 side of the 5/6 cartesian line. There's something really 5ish about him energetically; observer > skeptic, 5w6(6w7) > 6w5(5w4), the wall of avarice is a little bit too thick and he's always peering down with these Ni-ish eyes. It does seem like 'head in the hole' a la 6w5(5w4) might be correct, but he seems slightly more likely to have nothing moving to 4/5 at all.

His heart and gut really bug me. He should be image last; if he isn't a head type, he should be a gut type. I don't know if he's 1ish enough to sustain 5/6 cartesian line, 'competent heart' 2w1/3w4, so/SP, AND a 1 fix on type of it. My first guesstimate was 9w8(8w7); it seems like behind all of the 1ish, there's a not-insigificant lust factor coming from somewhere, and he seems like he should have at least one attachment fix. Heart-wise, he seems more 'competently offering' than 'the perfect mirroring of the extraordinary ordinary' to me. I'd give him 2w1 gut.

My full tentative typing is so/SP 5w6(6w7)-9w8-2w1, NiTe.

[Roshan]

I wasn't sure whether to start by quoting things people said that I strongly agree with--such as that his gut is 9, that he's social first, that he tells sing-song stories--and saying why, or just giving my complete typings before and now. Was leaning toward the former, but with this new post, I'll start here instead.

He's a bit nerve-wracking to watch.

A bit?

It does seem like 'head in the hole' a la 6w5(5w4) might be correct

Why not heart in the hole all the way in the head?

but he seems slightly more likely to have nothing moving to 4/5 at all.

Why not?

Heart-wise, he seems more 'competently offering'

Totally agree.

[Anthony]

He's a bit nerve-wracking to watch.

A bit?

Well, no—a lot. He's very nerve-wracking to watch.

It does seem like 'head in the hole' a la 6w5(5w4) might be correct

Why not heart in the hole all the way in the head?

but he seems slightly more likely to have nothing moving to 4/5 at all.

Why not?

Heart-wise, he seems more 'competently offering'

Totally agree.

Ugh. I take back what I said about his movement to the hole; he DOES seem to have movement to the hole, and at first I thought maybe 3w4(4w5). By 'competent offerer,' I did mean to imply 2w1 and 4w5 specifically, but it seemed like he should have SOME kind of pride coming from one of the fixes, and I didn't know how to account for that. However, as I write and recall, he does seem extremely shame-ridden and even 5w6(6w7) with the other fixes I proposed seemed like slightly too little disembodiment. If he's a triple withdrawn Social lead like Stephen Fry or happens to be a 694, I can see it...

[Roshan]

Ugh. I take back what I said about his movement to the hole; he DOES seem to have movement to the hole, and at first I thought maybe 3w4(4w5). By 'competent offerer,' I did mean to imply 2w1 and 4w5 specifically, but it seemed like he should have SOME kind of pride coming from one of the fixes,

The 2 is in the 4 the 4 is in the 2 and the beat goes on and on. This guy is NOT healthy. Four stresses to Two.

and I didn't know how to account for that.

I think we've been influenced by DG's mythological vision of 4 flying down to us from Mount Olympus like little Sistene Chapels in golden showers. DG who 'is' 4 fixed and 'reveres the 4 space' because 4 always angles itself so artfully.

Certainly I could be wrong about his heart, let alone about it leading. But it does seem odd to me that no one considered 4 seriously for his heart.


However, as I write and recall, he does seem extremely shame-ridden

Well, looking at all the votes, I expected--and encourage--disagreement here, and I don't mind however long it takes to come to some kind of consensus or almost consensus, (whether or not I turn out to be right), but imo people need to refresh their memory of what 'social 4 Imploded' means, and to think about just what would not healthy heart all the way in the head be like??

At this time I think he's a so/SP 4w55w6 lead (although originally I thought [so/sx]); if not then 9 lead, with the 4 second. I'm certainly willing to be wrong, but if anyone else had chosen 4w5 for heart, I'd probably be far more emboldened with my arguments, being one of the Cowards..

and even 5w6(6w7) with the other fixes I proposed seemed like slightly too little disembodiment.

He is extremely disembodied (while having a good bit of embodiment in the gut; there is imo 8 on the 9, though I'm not sure it's full 9w8). He is not of this earth--don't let his topics fool you because if he IS 4w5 lead he's still an image type after all so he'll be as he wishes to be seen.

btw I think some people are confusing [sp/sx] Demon with 4w5 In Hell. Though to be fair if he's so/SP he's also moving into Demon terrain.

If he's a triple withdrawn Social lead like Stephen Fry or happens to be a 694, I can see it...

But seriously, how is this guy a Six? imo the trifix that makes the most sense for him if he's not 4 fixed is 259 with 2 not leading. Anyhoo...

(Trigger warning, Ripley's Believe It Or Not) I actually think he's 7 fixed and that's why everyone finds him so entertaining despite his bleeding all over the floor like a human sacrifice gone awry. And I think people are seeing so much One because of double line to 1 and [so/sp]. I can see good arguments for either other head fix though, but 6 lead for me is going to be a hard sell. Feel free to push it though.

[Anthony]

I had a very strong feeling after I made that reply post that you were going to say he was 479.

When I reconsidered whether or not he had hole activity going on, the first word that came to mind was 'imploded,' and he does indeed remind me enough of Fry for 'Social 4 imploded' to make sense. One of the very first things that I noticed about him was his humungous avarice, but...yeah, to answer my own question "but, triple withdrawn?"—no, a tad too positive. He seems too squarely on the 5<-->7 line in the head to be 6 fixed, but the head fix should still be moving completely into 6. I'm fine with so/SP 4w5(5w6) 479.

[Roshan]

Here's where we did Frye. (And it connects to Theodore Dalrymple, who we believe is a 'One all the way in Nine', aka 'floppy One fix'. It's not quite the same as what goes on with Mercouris, I think. He seemed very obviously 9 fixed to me from the get go.

That said, I was quite certain he was some sort of very weird 5w6 by the end of the first vid I saw (OP); then right after it was over I had the epiphany. I didn't get to the 7 til after watching a second video and then I had him as [so/sx]. Only as I read the comments coming in I realized that stacking with 7 was way too Sevenny for him.

I have quite a bit more to say about Mercouris but perhaps it's best to let people comment and/or mull it over before I do, and also to do a bit of research on him. I can guarantee that it will just be a bit before you are very entertained AND very disturbed.

[Roshan]

Oh, right and we also have to do the ct.

I had a harder time with the ct than the E type. Obviously I considered Ni dom--both of them, but I also considered both Fi. Admittedly my feeling very strongly by then that he was a Four may have pushed me toward the latter, but that's what I chose. And my having settled on 7 fix may have influenced my further choice. (I know, I know, I'm not supposed to do that). But I chose FiNe (specifically FiSi) with reservations. The reservations have mostly to do with the signals. Like yes, I know he has Ni eyes-- but he should also be pretty deep in shadow, not to mention FiSi should enhance Ni demonstrative.

So I particularly find the arguments for FiSe (specifically as FiNi) very compelling. But I thought he was Se PolR and his 'you have to push through' was because you really DO. In fact it's all you can do in Bardo. Many many demons. Just keep walking.

In short, I'm not settled on the ct now. (But if someone else had said FiNe I probably would be).

[Vincent]

My first impression for him was so/SP -> SP/sx stream, 5w6 and gamma introvert, leaning initially toward NiTe.
Then he started triggering my BS detector pretty wildly, in addition of Vincent wrong preposition wrecking my nerves.
I found myself rewatching the first video a lot of times, pausing it claim by claim and double checking them.
I became quite convinced that he didn't have seamless T second row and was too S heavy to be NiTe.
I briefly wondered if he could be some kind of twisted T dominant in full shadow, then i pretty much settled on (overcollapsing) FiNi with overamped Si demonstrative, with Te inferior and Ti role.

At that point, i was really wondering how he landed on youtube doing those daily war reports and where did his competency come from. Something about it reminded me of a Facebook post Roshan showed me on the first day of the Ukrainian invasion, a pretty twisted piece of pro-russian propaganda which seemed ultimately driven by anti-globalist convictions.

So when i went back to his enneagram type i thought he might be 6w5(5w4) instead of 5w6, 3w4(4w5) fixed, and something like "getting it right gone wrong" and almost "gotta keep spinning", watching everything collapses Vincent verbs, causatives, from Mariupol to the dollar, almost eagerly.

I did consider a 4 fix for his heart later, and 469 shadow boxing, but i thought he wasn't that close to Michael Tracey for it to work, even with the difference in health level and instinct stacking.

What i didn't consider is a 7 fix, and now i strongly suspect that this, not 3 deceit, is what triggered my bs detector. Charlatan head.

Will watch more and do some research soon.
tbcd.

[Vincent]

Hmm, should wear glasses but doesn't ?

And wtf happened to this guy ?



(btw, at times i got the impression that he was reading a written or almost written text on his screen, which i thought was an hint pointing toward Ne polr)

[Vincent]

wtf

https://www.legalcheek.com/2017/07/barr ... ex-client/