Terra Incognita

Anthony wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 3:49 pm Konstantin and Francis are both probably 9w1(1w2) leading

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I assumed Francis' 9 wing should span into 8, otherwise why would his comic/just public persona be that of a lumbering, goofy 'bear'?

He seems to exemplify 9w1(8w9) 'teddy bear' style (with 2w3 more sweetness added). His swatting paw seems VERY close to the surface and seems like why it NEEDS a 'schtick' to contain it.

Roshan wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 3:56 pm

Anthony wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 3:49 pm I can't say I'm quite yet seeing where you're seeing 1w2, Roshan.

I'm not sure if you read everything I just posted yet, but there are three other people who chose 1w2 and it's in the enmeshed combustibility of her dynamics with Boyce. It's relational.

I haven't rewatched the Triggernometry video yet to confirm but I already agreed that just from the Rebel Wisdom one, my original 1w9 was not unlikely right

Well, i just took a quick look at both videos (Rebel Wisdom and Triggernometry) so far, but fwiw 1w9 already seems way more likely to me than it was when i voted. So yeah i'm pretty sure this has a lot to do with the intertype relationship indeed.

Also took another quick look at Paul Kingnorth and i strongly suspect your NiTe suspicion will turn out to be right Roshan

Tbcd tomorrow.

Roshan wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 4:03 pm

Anthony wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 3:49 pm Konstantin and Francis are both probably 9w1(1w2) leading

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I assumed Francis' 9 wing should span into 8, otherwise why would his comic/just public persona be that of a lumbering, goofy 'bear'?

He seems to exemplify 9w1(8w9) 'teddy bear' style (with 2w3 more sweetness added). His swatting paw seems VERY close to the surface and seems like why it NEEDS a 'schtick' to contain it.

Yes, fair. I absolutely agree. My mistake. I think I may have just erroneously assumed 9w1(1w2) for Francis because "too passive to have any 8," but obviously that's not how it works and 9w1(1w2) can be just as, if not more frequently assertive than 9w1(8w9).

Anthony wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 3:49 pm My current full tentative typing for Mary is sp/so 1w9(2w1)-5w6(6w7)-2w1(3w2), SiTe.

This is mine too, having now rewatched more. But bear in mind that technically I've been working longer with Anthony than with anyone on the thread, so we may have consensus based on something we're wrong about or simply missing. Feel free to disagree.

btw, by sp/so I mean specifically midstream range, in contrast to sp/SO or SP/so. This is a problem with the notation. I've (usually) been using [sp/so] to refer to the stacking in general because otherwise it's inconsistent--the two non-midstream ranges don't have brackets. Whichever I use the brackets for, midstream or general, leaves something to be desired so if anyone has a better suggestion, say so.

This is mostly just energetic impressions & I still haven't watched the Triggernometry interview and the Rebel Wisdom video.
I wasn't sure about the wing on the 1, she seemed to me less mellow and aloof than I thought for 1w9, and more outward reaching (though true both intertype & the 2 fix should affect that one)
I was also thinking "if 1w2 then so/sp, if 1w9 then sp/so" but i don't have a solid reason for that either, other than "the other way around seems too much".

the head fix wasn't/isn't clear to me either.

I was initially hesitating between 1w9 or 1w2 and whatever wing she has, it seems to be balanced or close to it. I figured her head fix was on the 5/6 line, and 5w6 becomes more apparent to me the more I watch her in different videos. She's too compliantly relational for 3 fix and she's not withdrawn enough to have a 4 fix, though as Roshan mentioned, she has a lot of 1 and is healthy enough to integrate into high 4. The way she illustrates how everything is meaning rather than just information points towards the 2 fix. With it being both a good example and something she relate to from experience (and one she elementally relates to and is drawn to I can imagine), she uses the image of a mother conveying information about her day. Informationally, it might not mean much, but semiotically it conveys so much meaning.

Energetically, as composed as she is, there's is something forceful about her. Ones in general can be pretty forceful, but this force feels more interpersonal and intrusive. I do agree with Anthony's typing of her. It's easy to see her between 7 and 4. She has the joie de vivre and syncretic natue of 7 while also maintaining a more deeply humanistic position of high 4.

Sorry for the late reply. I intended to reply here last night but i conked out, and just came back from work.

Anyway, at this point, i'm pretty confident about the 9 wing on the 1. It's quite clear in the Rebel Wisdom video and maybe even more in the triggernometry one.

She is indeed, as Roshan pointed out, a lot less reactive and attached when she is not with Ben. It seems pretty clear in her interactions with her business partner and with the two alpha introverts that her head fix is 5w6(6w7).

And then her heart has to be 2w1 rather than 3w4 because she really has to have more than a subwing in the 1/2 "cutting edge" space. Part of the reason i initially leaned toward 3 for her heart was the very pragmatic and almost "business oriented" way she was talking about relationships, here for example. But I do agree with Sarah about the forcefulness behind her composure. She is also very clear that she is doing what she does not only as a mother, but basically for her daughter, her "skin in the game", which also seems 2(w1) >>> 3(w4). Also triple mastery and "Mission Control" doesn't seem quite right to me. Pandora's Toolbox makes more sense imo.

Stacking-wise It seems quite clear that she won't let her So interferes Vincent too much with her sp. From the article i linked above : "Mary Harrington is a mother, political blogger and Eastern Region Secretary for the Social Democratic Party.". In that order. Mid-range stacking definitely seems right to me. So i do agree with the proposed sp/so 1w9(2w1) 5w6(6w7) 2w1(3w2) typing.