Terra Incognita

May I add that in that Nurse Ratched one, unlike anything else I saw, she could easily be a so/sp 6. But it's so different from the others that yeah I'll tread water with what I voted and see what other people have to say.

btw no one has to agree with me. Really. I just really feel sx 6 is very unlikely but I could be mistaken. I also felt she had the prissy arrogance of a white gloves garden party so/sp debutante in the early interview with Roseanne and the fervor of an exterminationist so/sp zealot later on, though she hid it under eyelash bats. Now, with That Thing, well...all the more.

Sorry, my posts crossed with Anthony's.

Damn straight, something feels off. And I looked at so much of her stuff but for some reason didn't come across the Nurse Ratched one.

Something's off to such a point I'm thinking it has to be 2w33w4 (assuming it's 2 and whether or not the 2 is first) because her 'self image' (as in image fix) seems unstable along the lines of Nick Fuentes. It really ought to be fully in the 3 space..

It's paradoxical because by her amping up the Oneness so much in that video, it makes me take OFF the 1 subwing on the 2 fix because this amping up just adds to her Protean image instability--which you see in the more recent videos when she oscillates between cute little doll girl and Joan of Arc, making little faces and then getting back on her horse.

(And fwiw very briefly early on I considered 4w33w2).

She seems like she should be counterflow, and yes I agree that if she is So/Sp, it's so/SP-->sp/sx. I also considered 2w3 lead and ultimately landed on 6 lead for the same reasons you mentioned in your first post after mine Roshan. Deciding on the wing was hard, but in that first interview, she just seems a bit too awkward and uncomfortable for the 7 wing, and a bit too "man! fuck you!" not to heavily consider the 5 wing.

Riiiight Anthony....I coooould see SO/sx motorcycle gang Six tattooing down the highway, I was able to make that concession hypothetically for argument's sake...

but she really does NOT seem sp last.

So unless someone else feels strongly about this, let's rule out sp last. -Sarah-, I think you're confusing sx/so with so/SP pulling up the sx.

The thing is, this woman is a predator. She predates on predators. She's like a cross between a gold digger and a python.

Which is also part of why I like her as a 2w3 lead. The classic 'gold digger' aspect. But I was very aware before the new videos of things that were off about it...in particular the sudden cutesie pixie smiles out of nowhere with the little girl hand waves that seem so...projecting a mental image of herself... and yeah yeah, I know she wrote a book called Brave and seems paranoid...yes, yes, victimology narrative up the wazoo...all that...

yeah...

however...IF she's social SIX THEN sp 2 stack-fix correlation smiles. Because sometimes recently she REALLY seems like an sp 2, and yes, I did consider sp/so 2 for a while...

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:21 am Riiiight Anthony....I coooould see SO/sx motorcycle gang Six tattooing down the highway, I was able to make that concession hypothetically for argument's sake...

but she really does NOT seem sp last.

So unless someone else feels strongly about this, let's rule out sp last. -Sarah-, I think you're confusing sx/so with so/SP pulling up the sx.

The thing is, this woman is a predator. She predates on predators. She's like a cross between a gold digger and a python.

Yes, agree with all that.

Which is also part of why I like her as a 2w3 lead. But I was very aware before the new videos of things that were off about it...in particular the sudden cutesie pixie smiles out of nowhere with the little girl waves. That seems so...projecting mental image of herself... and yeah yeah, I know she wrote a book called Brave and seems paranoid...yes, yes, victimology narrative up the wazoo...all that...

however...IF she's social SIX THEN sp 2 stack-fix correlation smiles.Because sometimes recently she REALLY seems like an sp 2, and yes, I did consider sp/so 2 for a while...

Yes! I had that same thought. She absolutely seems like an Sp 2 sometimes and initially, I felt compelled to type her as one.

When I voted I was initially thinking 6w7(5w6)-9w1(1w2)-2w3(1w2) sx/SO

But sexual 6/7 with 2/3 is too spicy and effervescent. But with that combo, I was considering a possible 1 fix and the sx/so going into so/sp giving off a cooling effect.

Yet...there's something so boundaried about her. Boundaried and pristine. I do see the sp 2 that you guys are talking about but it also feels weird to place her 2 last with the way I did.

She's sx last but she doesn't feel sx blind, which makes sense with so/SP.

There is something simultaneously predatory and histrionic as well as duty-bound and 'culture warrior' about her crusade.

-Sarah- wrote: ↑
But sexual 6/7 with 2/3 is too spicy and effervescent. But with that combo, I was considering a possible 1 fix and the sx/so going into so/sp giving off a cooling effect.

Sarah, the problem is the interview with Roseanne Barr. It's the one we have at this time to establish her base line because it's before any extreme image curation or modification (including before her accident), before she was old enough for stacks to move, and before she was subjected to causes for her now visible paranoia (which I don't doubt there are, and that's why I didn't force myself to rule out anything but 6 lead). At the same time, in that interview she'd already hooked her claws into Manson so she was hardly such a neophyte that she was nervous being interviewed.

And so it provides a baseline and the problem in it isn't that sx 6/7 with 2/3 is too spicy and effervescent. The problem is that imo and ime the woman in that interview is sx last.

In all the other interviews (except That Ratched Thing) I get what you're saying, but not in that one. I don't think sx/SO can cool that way, even with a One fix. That woman isn't cool, she's cold. A steamy kind of cold but cold. Steam that might come out from the subway through an iron grating when you're walking downtown in winter in the snow.

A white gloves garden party so/sp debutante. And though as a Two sp/SO would later have to be considered, so/sp stacking in that interview seems fully instinctive and energetic, incapable of being faked.

I also found her later on to be too Ninish too often for an actual One fix anyway--for instance in this new book video I'm still watching there's just mega 9 there. tbcd

She is a pip, that Rose, is she not?

She could drive us as nuts as she drove Hollywood.

Don't let her.

Something like a counterflow Shakira to her in that book interview. Like a cute little yapping counterphobic Six pit bull seductively shaking her fist at all the guys in the soccer field, jumping around singing whack off, whack off, instead of waka waka and spitting at them. Pretty sure Shakira is sp/SO 6w7-9w1-2w3 so I don't think sx 2 last is at all impossible for Ariana whose name was stolen from her. She reminds me.a bit of Trotting Pony and in fact 9w1 second could be what gives this impression that her identity is so tenuous. She seems like one day she could just...you know...go multiple and suddenly you'd be talking to a sub with a different name...hopefully not Harvey though...

After all that I just can't bring myself to move her away from the 2 lead. For instance, seems I hadn't actually watched the Nurse Ratched video to the very end; everyone really should (re)watch that end. I didn't realize she wanted to run for governor, but she also thinks she's going to BE governor in ten years, because she's going to raise an army and we'll win because we're right (eyes burning zealously like coals on daggers). She doesn't even say what we're right about. This is waaaaay before MeToo. Passion doubt? It sounds more like passion Entitlement. Especially for someone as clearly in full-blown Moses carrying the Tablets so/sp mode as she is. Six lead on that says that? This is laying the foundation of a political career?

There are other reasons but they mostly come down to something similar, except for that energetically she just seems like a Two to me at the end of the day. And also that the two people she reminds me of most often, even in her pixie elf incarnation videos, are Hillary Clinton and Susan Sarandon. So I'm sticking with my vote. I think she's an so/SP 2w3 with an anxiety disorder--in the book video she looks like she's quietly doing deep breathing exercises for dear life--and an attachment disorder too. She seems to have borderline traits and there's a whole lotta splitting going on. tbcd I suspect we may chew on Rose's cud for some time to come but like I said, we can walk and chew cud at the same time.