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Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:23 pm
by Roshan
So
this is the article. And this is how it ends:
As for myself, I will finish by saying that lost in my “dark wood” I found far more help and support from reading Dante and Dostoevsky — both sufferers from what we today call depression — than I did from anything the medical services had to offer me.
Above all it was thanks to my very own Beatrice that I finally came through — “to look once more upon the stars”.
Could you explain to a reasonably intelligent ten year old why he wrote those last two paragraphs,
-Sarah-?
Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:43 pm
by -Sarah-
Roshan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:23 pm
So
this is the article. And this is how it ends:
As for myself, I will finish by saying that lost in my “dark wood” I found far more help and support from reading Dante and Dostoevsky — both sufferers from what we today call depression — than I did from anything the medical services had to offer me.
Above all it was thanks to my very own Beatrice that I finally came through — “to look once more upon the stars”.
Could you explain to a reasonably intelligent ten year old why he wrote those last two paragraphs,
-Sarah-?
I think he mentioned Dante and Dostoevsky to further highlight the ineffectiveness of the treatments the medical services had to offer. He found more comfort in delving into the works of authors who also might have had depression. He found solace in these authors because they mirrored and articulated the depression he felt, and this probably helped him deal with it.
Most importantly though, he wanted to thank his wife for supporting him throughout the duration of his depression, it was because of her that was able to come through and look up "upon the stars", to have hope.
Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:57 pm
by Roshan
"both
sufferers from what we today call depression",
-Sarah-.
Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:00 pm
by -Sarah-
Roshan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:57 pm
"both
sufferers from what we today call depression",
-Sarah-.
Oh right. I wrote "might have had depression" and that was wrong.
Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:09 pm
by Roshan
-Sarah-, he's talking about his own experience of human suffering and greatness at the end. With all due respect, you're imposing additional layers of clinical analysis on his attempt to break through that.
Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:11 pm
by Roshan
(And overamped Si demo and Ti role are alpha shadow, as we've so often discussed. There are real reasons no one considered 4 seriously enough to even mention rejecting it).
Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:15 pm
by Roshan
Where's the blood and guts,
-Sarah-?
When he evokes Dante and Beatrice, he means Dante and Beatrice in his personal experience.
Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:19 pm
by -Sarah-
I see. I totally missed his lived and felt experience and now I see why you highlighted this the way you did. I was doing what the medical field was doing.
Roshan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:57 pm
"both
sufferers from what we today call depression",
-Sarah-.
Roshan
Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 pm
by Roshan
-Sarah- wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:19 pm
I was doing what the medical field was doing.
Re: 'Gram the Grownup #4 Alexander Mercouris
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:33 pm
by -Sarah-
Roshan thank you for pointing this out. I didn't even realize I was being too clinical and not seeing Mercouris for Mercouris. It's no wonder I missed 4 core for him.