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Re: Kubrick

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:07 pm
by Roshan
Synchronicitously, this person who wrote about Kubrick as unicorn variant ESTJ wrote, "yes, this is surely what people like Charles Darwin have in mind, of course: Te1>Se2), and also, I would say, works like Da Vinci’s Vitruvian Man." Just yesterday I was going to put up the Vitruvian Man for Trifix 137 sticky, but I didn't because I don't know how to save anything on this HP laptop (yet, and not for lack of trying). I wound up looking into how the Vitruvian man 'works'. and subsequent to that I spent some time fiddling around with image searches for Da Vinci and thinking how he really likely was an 'evolutionary' ESTJ. 'Evolutionary' is my word, for someone visionary 'out of quadra'.

And here we have this person talking about King K. and Darwin and Leonardo (not Dario Nardi); this person has some system cooking, subscripts and all, so I think I better mosey on down and see what's going on at his okay corral.

Sigh. A cowboy's work is never done.

Don't you wish you'd never even heard of 'typology'? I do! But...I'm ready for my close-up anyway Mr. DeMille.

Re: Kubrick

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:17 pm
by Roshan
I will say this now, though:

I found the ending so odd in Eyes Wide Shut, at first I thought the editing must have been finished post mortem, but no, he considered that film his greatest contribution and he didn't (I say wouldn't) die until it was done.

And what I got from the ending, and the way it's edited on, is that the search for interpretation and uncovering of hidden meaning does not matter and should not be pursued. There is just too much ultimately unknown, we should all tend to our lives, jobs, and families. It seemed entirely unironic and utterly wholesome. which I had difficulty accepting could be so, but the documentary (which wasn't on yt last time I looked into K) corroborates this implicitly by telling how he lived.

A non-trivial detail in the discussion of Kubrick's type should be that he considered--or at least at one point claimed, felt he considered--a biography of Napoleon to be the most significant book he ever read.

Re: Kubrick

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:23 pm
by Roshan
Akhromant is on tumblr.

Fine. It has come to this.

Bring it on.

Re: Kubrick

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:29 pm
by Roshan
Our discussion of Akhromant's system goes here.

We'll continue to type King K.* with our own system and allow this to shed whatever light it does and synthesize it into ours. INTJ in MBTI is me (I'm INTp in socionics)and it is not Fe.

But there is not nothing to this youthling's** tarot correlations.

*, **youthling being a word a Chinese college ESL writing student coined by mistake, King K. being a character in this story I wrote as a youthling.

Re: Kubrick

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:13 pm
by Roshan
Kubrick's cataloguing, his streamlined, archived hoarding, blows a gasket in my brain, and I have to admit it seems higher Te/Si than unignoring/demonstrative. That said...

that said, King K. is what Marsha calls him once and now I'm really trying (again) to figure out if Wurlitzer washing machines could have possibly still been in use in 1980, when I wrote that story. But I digress, but I don't know any better place to put this offhand?

I discovered after posting that story on EF that Wurlitzer was mosty a musical instrument and jukebox company but they did make washing machiens for a time through companies they acquired. But I wonder if I may have been conflating Wurlizter with the Whirlpool washing machine brand, which I can see was popular through the 70s. This is the second time I'm trying to find out and so far I've hit this leviathan.

But Stanley, had he lived into the full-blown cyber-age, would have known what to do.

Re: Kubrick

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:36 pm
by Roshan
Roshan wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:13 pm Kubrick's cataloguing, his streamlined, archived hoarding, blows a gasket in my brain, and I have to admit it seems higher Te/Si than unignoring/demonstrative.
Yes, of course you do, dear, and you also have to admit Eliot's Ni and Fi seem higher than demo and role. Things like that are why you cooked up 'evolutionary out of quadra', remember? :evil:

:ninja:

Btw, I hopped on the short-lived ENTJ train for Kubrik because a video from this guy, who I used to be interested in typologically and haven't thought about in a while, popped up and I thought he was ENTJ...(just how does the math factor factor in with Si PolR?) But in any case overall his gaze is far less wide-eyed, limpid and bleary than Kubrick's....

Re: Kubrick

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:05 pm
by Roshan
Just saying though, Kubrick was a chess hustler before he could make money on his photography. I wonder what his gaze would have been like if he'd chosen to stay in a field in the realm of math and probability. Anyway my typing for Taleb could be wrong too.

Re: Kubrick

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:30 pm
by Roshan
Oh, I found an early audio interview.


Re: Kubrick

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:40 pm
by Roshan
Here's a little more on-camera footage of footage.

(Honestly his actual presence still seems gamma SF to me. Yes, I know, it doesn't hold up and anyway I could be wrong about The Seeming).


Re: Kubrick

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:08 am
by Roshan
My apologies for being so all over the place here but it's been 42 years since I crossed the seas in a tub with King K. and only now did I get to act in one of his movies. Also, I still remember like it was yesterday when Allen resurfaced in the hall in junior high school after months, and it was less than ten years ago he resurfaced on facebook and told me he had been in London with his father, who was making Barry Lyndon, when we almost lived happily ever after just like fairy tales.

Also this is an unnerving thread, as is Alexander's but in a different way so I'm on edge. For instance, how is Kubrik the same type as Styxhexenhammer? Is Styx NiTe? And no, Akhromant is not using the first and last two functions, because the whole point was there is no Ni in ESTJ; he was saying ESTJ but giving its PolR, but since as such he was evoking ENTJ, and mentioning Darwin and Da Vinci a(t least his drawing), it was evocative...Te Se in the first two slots (and yes, this placement does have to do with Jung) would be why I initially voiced my reservations about FiSe and Kubrick's photos: they seem specifically Te Se. There is a very raw reality to them.