CT Adult Poll Dance #2 'Trainwreck'

[e-ssam]

when I googled it, it showed the picture BUT that it's also short for Samuel, along with:

I am Sam. Sam I am. Sam is short of course for Samuel, which literally means “Name of God.” “I am Sam” means literally “I Am [The] Name of God.” In Judaism the Name of God (Ha-Shem) is a euphemism for God's Presence.

so yuno :p

[Vincent]

ps I didn't discuss him with Vincent at all.

Indeed.
We voted the same again without communicating at all about him.

After watching the debate i was quite perplex about his type and his intertype relationships with the other debaters.
I was just pretty sure he would turn out to be "high S".
And i suspected he would turn out to be alpha or gamma, because i thought that if he was beta or delta he probably wouldn't have been so quiet for so long.

After that i saw some of his streaming and group content, including some pretty over-the-top stuff, i started considering he might be SiFe in SeFi shadow or FeSi in FiSe shadow.
But that impression didn't hold up.
Se/Ni had to be in his front stack.
And he is also too healthy to be deep in shadow and way too individualistic to be alpha.

At that point i was hesitating between SeFi and FiSe creative subtype.
The first video Roshan posted convinced me it was the latter.

tbcd.

[Roshan]

so yuno :p

What ino is us gammas had to bludgeon that presence out of you, it's a good thing your godhead hasn't concussed.

[Vincent]

I think if a beta where to do a speech in that vein, there's going to be an underlying feeling of it being tongue in cheek.

Probably yes.
I suspect the only beta type that could get remotely close to this would be FeNi unignoring Fi.

Even with Fi role, TiSe is way too stoic and removed.

Not with Trainwrecks. I thought the the speech was a bit funny and endearing but ultimately moving (also thanks to the dramatic background music). He's emotionally invested and he doesn't give a f***k that he comes off as cringe - he's expressing his true feelings. I feel like I'm being punched by his emotions.

He gets me pretty much right from the start.
Then he cooks me up. Crescendo.

[Roshan]

I don't know why the poll seems to have ended an hour early

I changed the time zone in my user dashboard; it's fine now.

[Amy]

After watching more of Trainwreck. I’m leaning towards FiSe. I agree with Roshan that he tends to highlight his personal experience, even though he sometimes gives the pseudo Fe impression that they’re ‘societal issues’. Issues among people for him are issues with individuals, and the size of the person/ group is less important than the impact itself. Other than just ‘Se presence’, he seems Ne PoLR in the way that he doesn’t seem to explain himself from another angle when someone doesn’t have the same meaning or experience as him. He may emphasize/ hold his position (Se), and may even give some Si specifics he has them, but that’s about it from what I’ve seen so far. Though that could also have to do with Fi>Fe, the meaning he derives from his experiences aren’t to be questioned, and he’s not going to change (Fe) his tone if it doesn’t feel authentic (Fi).