David Byrne (Talking Heads)
Re: David Byrne (Talking Heads)
Well, atm I am officially possibly the only person in the world who types David Byrne as a 3 but hey shit happens.
Re: David Byrne (Talking Heads)
With him as a 3 'Once in a Lifetime' takes on a new and much more frightening dimension.
He wasn't struggling against schizophrenia. He was struggling against DID at disintegration point 9.
He wasn't struggling against schizophrenia. He was struggling against DID at disintegration point 9.
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Re: David Byrne (Talking Heads)
Absolutely 3 lead.
It was a pretty picture
It almost made me cry
He's got Big imagination
It's better than real life
He can be a macho man
Now he's a game show host
One minute hilarious comedian
Now he's an undercover cop
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh livin' make believe
So how can we be strangers
He's got no personality
It's just a clever imitation
Of the people on TV
A line for ev'ry situation
He's learnin' trivia and tricks
Havin' sex and eatin' cereal
Wearin' jeans and smokin' cigarettes now
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh livin' make believe
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh livin' make believe
I can be you and you can be me
In my mundo, todo el mundo
Ev'ryone's happy and ev'ryone's free
Todo mundo, mundo mambo
Here in my mundo where nothing is wrong
Todo mundo, in my mundo
I'll be a lady and you'll be a man
Mundo mambo, todo el mundo
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh livin' make believe
In my mundo todo mundo
Mundo mambo in my mundo
Todo el mundo mundo mambo
Mundo mambo Todo mundo
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh ? livin' make believe
Mundo mambo todo el mundo
In my mundo todo mundo
Todo el mundo mundo mambo
It was a pretty picture
It almost made me cry
He's got Big imagination
It's better than real life
He can be a macho man
Now he's a game show host
One minute hilarious comedian
Now he's an undercover cop
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh livin' make believe
So how can we be strangers
He's got no personality
It's just a clever imitation
Of the people on TV
A line for ev'ry situation
He's learnin' trivia and tricks
Havin' sex and eatin' cereal
Wearin' jeans and smokin' cigarettes now
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh livin' make believe
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh livin' make believe
I can be you and you can be me
In my mundo, todo el mundo
Ev'ryone's happy and ev'ryone's free
Todo mundo, mundo mambo
Here in my mundo where nothing is wrong
Todo mundo, in my mundo
I'll be a lady and you'll be a man
Mundo mambo, todo el mundo
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh livin' make believe
In my mundo todo mundo
Mundo mambo in my mundo
Todo el mundo mundo mambo
Mundo mambo Todo mundo
Oh let the poor boy dream
Oh ? livin' make believe
Mundo mambo todo el mundo
In my mundo todo mundo
Todo el mundo mundo mambo
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Re: David Byrne (Talking Heads)
Well, like I said, when I first got around to seeing him I thought "oh look probably a 5 leading interpersonal alien w/ head either in or looking toward the hole," but other than the fact that's he's multifaceted, he's just...NOT interpersonal, not in the way that "interpersonal alien" is meant, and he's clearly much more intrapersonal if anything.
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Re: David Byrne (Talking Heads)
Jesus, he's SO Warhol-ish in various ways, you're right.
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He's also like Warhol in that he's just inundated by other people, swarms of 'em, while still being so creepily soc last. Mega scenester.
Another thing is that he is a multi-instrument virtuoso musician, and a choreographer, film maker...he said (wiki) he probably had Aspergers --we did not know what it was back then--and music was his way of communicating since he was a very young child.
It all really starts to make sense, even the 'stop making sense'. After all, why would an actual Five want--and want you--to stop making sense? But a 5-fixed Three who couldn't form an identity, whose experience of being a person made no sense...Fives don't care if their experience of being a person makes no sense, it's just not a priority.
I keep thinking of that 'into the blue again'. It's the space between the roles, the identities, he assumes, and it's totally empty. But being line to 9 it's also water AND sky, the All.
Another thing is that he is a multi-instrument virtuoso musician, and a choreographer, film maker...he said (wiki) he probably had Aspergers --we did not know what it was back then--and music was his way of communicating since he was a very young child.
It all really starts to make sense, even the 'stop making sense'. After all, why would an actual Five want--and want you--to stop making sense? But a 5-fixed Three who couldn't form an identity, whose experience of being a person made no sense...Fives don't care if their experience of being a person makes no sense, it's just not a priority.
I keep thinking of that 'into the blue again'. It's the space between the roles, the identities, he assumes, and it's totally empty. But being line to 9 it's also water AND sky, the All.
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Re: David Byrne (Talking Heads)
He's not interpersonal but he's consumed with reflecting all these other people, styles and trends he's surrounded by. Just like Warhol. And every bit as much of a trend radar.
Like I said in pm, 'The Big Country' absolutely captures the downtown culture I emerged from. I say capture as in it kind of explains it.
This ironic explanation seemed so Five lead 'punching out'...but it's not really, it's not primary. He's more like negatively defining what it takes to succeed in the arts scene. This is what you reject to fake it til you make it (all that is ordinary and organic), and there is a price to be paid (rootlessness) but still, he wouldn't live there if you paid him to.
It's about the process of determining what's valuable in order to be valued. And again, the goo goo ga ga baby sounds at the end are creepier with the 3 lead than with the 5. Because it isn't really a parody, he's just going...into the blue again.
Like I said in pm, 'The Big Country' absolutely captures the downtown culture I emerged from. I say capture as in it kind of explains it.
This ironic explanation seemed so Five lead 'punching out'...but it's not really, it's not primary. He's more like negatively defining what it takes to succeed in the arts scene. This is what you reject to fake it til you make it (all that is ordinary and organic), and there is a price to be paid (rootlessness) but still, he wouldn't live there if you paid him to.
It's about the process of determining what's valuable in order to be valued. And again, the goo goo ga ga baby sounds at the end are creepier with the 3 lead than with the 5. Because it isn't really a parody, he's just going...into the blue again.
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Re: David Byrne (Talking Heads)
It's like he's just this emptiness looking out at the rooted, organic ordinary world that defines him by the fact that he can make a song about it, about rejecting it.
But at the same time he's so attached to this big country. Negatively attached.
And he knows this attachment is fetal.
But at the same time he's so attached to this big country. Negatively attached.
And he knows this attachment is fetal.
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Re: David Byrne (Talking Heads)
I'm honestly floored.
John, my 639 collaborator in Velveeta Tureen and many theater projects, who I met during freshman orientation in college in 1976 and he became the concert organizer at Columbia (getting some very big acts), was crazy about Talking Heads. I still remember him playing me their album all excited when it came out, and going 'Look at that kitchen!' to The BIg Country. But it didn't...move me. At all.
So like I said I just never paid much mind to them. And of course if you compare something like Transits to Byrne's removed wheezing, it's easy to understand why. But now from this vantage point, taking a fresh look, I gotta say...
wow. Marshall McLuhan said artists are the 'antenna of the race'. This one really had his finger on the pulse of where we were and what we were doing and where we were headed.
Very, very impressed.
John, my 639 collaborator in Velveeta Tureen and many theater projects, who I met during freshman orientation in college in 1976 and he became the concert organizer at Columbia (getting some very big acts), was crazy about Talking Heads. I still remember him playing me their album all excited when it came out, and going 'Look at that kitchen!' to The BIg Country. But it didn't...move me. At all.
So like I said I just never paid much mind to them. And of course if you compare something like Transits to Byrne's removed wheezing, it's easy to understand why. But now from this vantage point, taking a fresh look, I gotta say...
wow. Marshall McLuhan said artists are the 'antenna of the race'. This one really had his finger on the pulse of where we were and what we were doing and where we were headed.
Very, very impressed.
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