Terra Incognita

Okay, I'm seeing where this memory thing went but I don't understand why it wasn't resolved with those time stamps. They were up all day and night with nothing else to distract. From the very beginning of the OP video, in which he's obviously around 70, he remembers everything in pink, including every YEAR in sequence. Why are you even arguing this here, Vincent, when it was on display for so long under floodlights?

Vincent wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:52 am

Anthony wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:04 pm Yeah, fair enough. Although, when I first watched the video, it wasn't JUST that he gave vague answers to memory-based questions. At one point, he answered to a memory-based question with "it doesn't really matter...," which struck me [albeit superficially and probably incorrectly] as revelatory of his orientation to Si in general, that it "just doesn't really matter."

Well, he says that once yeah, and the thing is he isn't even wrong : it really didn't matter.
On the other hand, he gives the impression that he probably remembers every single person in every single team from every single company he created.

To be clear Anthony has, or would have, a point, in saying that his time/memory Si is a bit too casual to be Si dom, (perhaps specifically SiTe), or to be AS REMARKABLY Si > Se as I thought at first.

But that's not what Anthony was saying before and after he liked my post with the three time stamps. He was basically saying, one way or another, that somehow something of his time/memory Si stil sucks.

His time/memory Si is as good as my analytical Te. That's why it matters until it doesn't.

And that's why I was able to show it three times in the first six minutes.

Roshan, yes, I checked the timestamps when you first posted them and once again after my replies to Vincent.
The first time I checked, I didn't pick up on your point and assumed that the indicated disagreement with Vincent, and thus agreement with me.
The second time, I understood what you meant perfectly well and assumed that the direction of the rest of my posts conveyed that, or at the very least, indicated that I moved away from high Se valuing and no longer thought his Si was shabby or unvalued (I said he seems to have integrated with the delta machine, the chewing tobacco/shotgun thing, and that I was much more heavily considering TeSi).

In my first replies to Vincent, I didn't mean to still insist his Si memory/time contextualization was shabby. I meant to convey that it initially struck me as such, but probably only owing to confirmation bias/'hallucination' ("...[albeit superficially and probably incorrectly]...").

Why are you even arguing this here, Vincent, when it was on display for so long under floodlights?

I assume it's because he also thought I was still insisting that his Si memory/time contextualization was poor since I didn't convey what I meant very well. My bad.

Anthony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:12 pm

Why are you even arguing this here, Vincent, when it was on display for so long under floodlights?

I assume it's because he also thought I was still insisting that his Si memory/time contextualization was poor since I didn't convey what I meant very well. My bad.

Well, what I was really asking him was why didn't he just tell you to watch those time stamps specifically instead of debating vaguely? I assume he'll answer tomorrow.

And btw our last two posts (obviously) crossed.

Amy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:12 am I remember thinking he was an Fi user as a first impression, though I think I could have been conflated that for Si ‘warmth’ maybe.

No, i think you're right that he's upper slot Fi (Fi seeking most likely) but this simply was not apparent to me at all. Are you able to articulate how you got this impression so early on, Amy?

Now would be a good time for an entertaining interlude. Have you ever wondered how the hell I ever got interested in Jim Clark?

It was through the property he recently bought. I read on facebook about a mid-century socialite and fashion icon named Gloria Guiness, who had a mansion in a place called Manalapan in Florida near ritzy Palm Beach that I'd never heard of, which was odd. The article said the mansion was built on both sides of the highway, which was odder, so I looked into it.

And that's how I wound up in the world of youtube real estate videos, among other sources. It turned out it's not the mansion but the property that's on both sides, connected by tunnels that go under the highway. There's also a hedge canopy that goes over the highway to hide the property from the hoi polloi. I also found out Manalapan's population is tiny, and the property was on the market as the most expensive property in the country for $200 million. But no one would buy it.

I then discovered it was rumored to be sold, and it took some doing to confirm it had been, to one Jim Clark. Who? Bh now I was so curious. He bought it for slightly less than half the asking price AFTER the current owner had gotten the town to approve dividing it into four lots for development, to their HORROR because the denizens of Manalapan are very attached to the integrity of Gloria Guiness' estate, where Winston Churchill probably maybe wrote an important war speech, and also they hate development.

But see, Clark already had a mansion in the Palm Beach area, and he also had his young fourth wife and two new kids for a septuagenarian. At this point it seems like he used that expedient Si--the knowledge of the community he was part of from the framework of an investor's understanding of the movements, the procedures of markets. AFTER the town agreed to chop up the thing, he made a 'low' offer, possibly knowing there'd be social pressure on the current owners to accept it to 'save the town'. He is apparently the toast of town now. Good ol' Jim. Honest and egoless. Plus he gets to own this 'very important new old thing'. Which is ALSO still one big ersatz FARM, but Ne agenda and Fi seeking really do fit. And Ni PolR...well...just what is the point of all this, really?

Still, somehow I was between TeSi and SiFe (the latter for reasons to be elaborated later which seem kind of awkward atm), eventually moving to one of the two Si doms, without anything Fi hitting me in the face from him energetically., back pocket or no.

Here's the first video of the estate that I saw. There are more but this was the right music to really pull me in. The lyrics are quite morbid and imo really suit this Boy Scout's den.

Something a wise realtor said during my foray into high end real estate youtube videos was, when you have that much money, the question isn't 'Why?' It's 'Why not?'.

Roshan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:01 pm Okay, I'm seeing where this memory thing went but I don't understand why it wasn't resolved with those time stamps. They were up all day and night with nothing else to distract. From the very beginning of the OP video, in which he's obviously around 70, he remembers everything in pink, including every YEAR in sequence. Why are you even arguing this here, Vincent, when it was on display for so long under floodlights?

The thing is Anthony had already told me the exact same thing during our video chat session the night before, and i had already mentioned the timestamps and already pointed out to him that he was picking up one thing to make his case when everything else pointed toward the opposite (and that it started to sound like a "legalistic defense"). That's basically what i was trying to say in my reply when i saw his post the next morning. I was also trying to keep this short and about Jim Clark, as i intended to discuss this with Anthony directly. It ended up being both too much and not enough.

Your post with the timestamps should have been more than enough to resolve this and i really should have quoted it instead of arguing about this again.

Anthony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:12 pm Roshan, yes, I checked the timestamps when you first posted them and once again after my replies to Vincent.
The first time I checked, I didn't pick up on your point and assumed that the indicated disagreement with Vincent, and thus agreement with me. The second time, I understood what you meant perfectly well

Well, you didn't mention this at all when we discussed it the night before. I was under the impression that we both understood this in the same way. I definitely should have checked instead of assuming.

edit : i have to go back to mummying for now. I'll check and catch up with the rest of the thread soon.
tbcd.

Vincent wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:21 am

Anthony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:12 pm Roshan, yes, I checked the timestamps when you first posted them and once again after my replies to Vincent.
The first time I checked, I didn't pick up on your point and assumed that the indicated disagreement with Vincent, and thus agreement with me. The second time, I understood what you meant perfectly well

Well, you didn't mention this at all when we discussed it the night before. I was under the impression that we both understood this in the same way. I definitely should have checked instead of assuming.

edit : i have to go back to mummying for now. I'll check and catch up with the rest of the thread soon.
tbcd.

Anthony, you checked all three time stamps and still thought I was corroborating you, or you just checked the first because you assumed I'd be corroborating you and so you felt one was enough?

Vincent Clearly, the most basic thing we might say is missing in the exchanges between you and Anthony about Clark's 'S' once my post with the time stamps was up was some mention of its existence in some way, shape or form.

btw that emoji WAS also to Vincent in as much as he'd said he didn't know if Anthony was right that that's what Clark was doing with his Si time memory when he could have just checked the beginning of the video.

Sure, it's a risk. Ya got a long video, you wanna check if someone's claim about it's true, ya might not find anything in two minutes and ya don't have time for more. But ya might. And if ya do ya don't hafta theorize about the wut ifs for twenty minutes. Live dangerously.