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[Roshan]

Vincent, what do you think Nick Fuentes' Enneagram type is?

[Roshan]

hmmm....he's very different when he just speaks to his own tribe. And he really does have a tribe, they're called Groypers. Seems much higher Se and more beta, but why was he so pandering, obsequious and needy with 'the boys' on trainwreckstv? I thought he was 739 but seems 379, with a little bit of 8 and possibly sx 3, at least here. But no Anthony (to reference an offsite observation), he doesn't seem 23 years old, Offhand just based on this maaaaaybe I'd say FeSe but...? ? I said before there is something very TiSe but not to him. He certainly doesn't go out of his way to make sense though; on the other hand he does seem to be his own movie. Projecting his own movie. But in the debate he failed, and somehow the Se was lost. Was he perhaps frustrated in hopes to mirror Sargon or otherwise bond with him ct-wise?

[Roshan]

If he's FeNi then he's Destiny's QUASI-identical (not identical), Sargon's frustrated activity partner, and Hasan's superego

[Vincent]

Hmmm, i didn't think much about his enneagram yet but...
I can't say i'm seeing 7 or 6.
He doesn't feel quite like a head type to me.
He seems more heart centered, on the 2/3 line. and ct-wise i've been wondering if he might be F dom and T fourth row.

I wonder if he might be a 2 actually.

I mean, he seems to be like a catholic Choir Boy who went into politics for the sake of Mother Church and Daddy State and who positioned himself in such a way that he will always be a victim of universal ostracism.
The right-winger that all the Destinys and Hasans of the world love to hate
So poor and so cute.
And he seems to be pretty proud of that.

But i don't know.
I'm not quite done with the second part of the video yet and it's getting late for me.
I'll get back to him (and the others) tomorrow.

tbcd soon.

edit : posts crossed, reading up

[Roshan]

I think he's a 3w2 FeNi jumper with a 7 fix Vincent. He seems here like a smooth unsmooth operator and not so harmless and not such a choir boy either.

I think what's so unsettling about him is that he's a Catholic Si PolR beta activist with 'traditionalists' as his tribe, but he is NOT unsuccessful at this. (Read his wiki).

I do think he's shifty for very similar reasons to why I thought he was before; nothing a week in Thailand with twelve year old girls wouldn't cure him of. But I don't think he's acting out his own dual; I think it's his PolR, which is kind of worse. He seems beta in that last video to me.

[Roshan]

And no, I can't. I can't account for why he comes off so different in the two videos (at least he does to me). I'll have to watch more. The only thing I can think of is his youth and being disappointed at not being able to make a connection with Sargon.

Sargon did riff off of him and expanded on some of his ideas but he also patronized him and refused to treat him as an equal. He barely really dealt with him directly at all.

I'll watch more. Those were just my offhand thoughts watching the second video. I do think quasi-identical with Destiny makes sense though. They both shift goal posts constantly for the greater glory of god or the pursuit of happiness.

[Vincent]

If he's FeNi then he's Destiny's QUASI-identical (not identical), Sargon's frustrated activity partner, and Hasan's superego

Well, i was starting to lean more and more toward FiNe in FeNi (and thus Destiny's mirror) because Se polr seemed more likely than Si polr in the debate.

But i just watched the video you posted, and here goes that hypothesis.

FeNi seems way more likely indeed.
And then the air of smartassness that i initially thought was peacocked Ne inf would be unhealthy weaponized Ne 6th.

tbcd.

[Roshan]

I could definitely see him making videos with TPAS about the Jooz and telling him "You take care of the detail work".

[Roshan]

I agree there was some decent possibility of Se PolR previously. I had already briefly but seriously considered and rejected FiNe. He's not my beneficiary and his smarminess was DNA level, not just shadow.

I think his being treated like a Boy Scout by Sargon actually may have made him lose his Se!

[Roshan]

I also think he's a jumper for a very specific reason.

As a Catholic afflicted by the sin of concupiscence, he can't afford to telescope authentically, not even as 'tool'. Dollars to donuts he's a pedo, or gay, or has rape fantasies and/or something he just can't face. So he keeps recycling the bare bones Catholic behavioral precepts in lieu of Ni and he hops over it from Fe charm to Se clout. And that's why his Se was precarious in the other video. He has no genuine ideas and there was no one to exert his clout on. If he went too far with the two American liberals, he'd lose Sargon's patronizing elaboration of those of his ideas Sargon deemed worthy of existing at all and Sargon would have just crushed him like a bug.

The die was cast when Sargon deferred on giving an opinion on trans in the military and put Nick on equal footing with 'the other side' by saying he'd hear both out. It was a much bigger deal than I realized. Telling Nick off the bat to convince him meant to convince him he had a right to exist.

And in the end Sargon magnanimously said it was a great idea to have Nick so he and people like him would feel they had a voice and were heard to prevent them from further excesses.