In a strange way, it felt like Alice and Tommy(her son) were duals, with Alice being the SiFe.
Re: Martin Scorsese
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:04 am
by Roshan
Just watched a few scenes to refresh my memory. Saw it I guess about ten years ago (def not when it came out).
They are duals, and she and David are mirages who decide to stay together after they demirage. And Tommy and David are business partners but the business is rivalry for Alice.
Re: Martin Scorsese
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:15 am
by Anthony
Anthony wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:24 pm
After the death of her abusive husband, Alice's life is completely upended, and the entire plot involves her & her son's desperate effort to find balance and comfortably situate themselves in the midst of the omnipresent, chaotic, abusive underbelly of 1970s suburbia—the gateway to which, for Alice, is usually a forceful, masculine figure.
It all felt rather Lynchian, incredibly 9ish (specifically 9-->6), and incredibly Ne-seeking—like Scorsese envisioned a breakage of Si concretization in the form of leaving one's home, unreliable income streams, etc., all to reveal how the subsequently erupting chaos & continual movement sheds light on collective Fe 'facades' anywhere and everywhere. Having a hard time seeing Fi PoLR for this one.
Interestingly enough, however, 'Fi PoLRness' was a kind of backdrop of various scenes. This seems intentional, as in not just because Tommy and David and probably a few others were Fi PoLR characters.
Re: Martin Scorsese
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:26 pm
by Vincent
Roshan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:42 pm
Well, I just watched the first part of his mc and if he's not SiFe I'll eat my hat.
Well, so far SiFe seems more likely than SiFi to me.
I'll try to watch his mc tonight, and if not tonight tomorrow morning.
tbcd soon.
Re: Martin Scorsese
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:37 pm
by Roshan
Far more likely.
Re: Martin Scorsese
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:17 pm
by Vincent
Roshan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:37 pmFar more likely.
Yeah..
I got intrigued when you said "if Tolkien can SiTe, maybe he can be SiFi".
But i watched part of the masterclass and i really really don't see it.
Pretty positive you're right and he is SiFe.
Re: Martin Scorsese
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:25 am
by Roshan
I watched 'The Wolf of Wall Street' last night for the first time and would like to discuss. tbcd
Re: Martin Scorsese
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:29 am
by e-ssam
Roshan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:25 am
I watched 'The Wolf of Wall Street' last night for the first time and would like to discuss. tbcd
"The Wolf of Wall Street filmmaker acknowledged that he was dealing with 'turmoil in [his] own life' around 1978, 'and embracing the other world, so to speak, with a kind of attraction to the dangerous side of existence.'
The issues came to a head on Labor Day weekend of that year when the then-35-year-old director's body nearly shut down through the rigmarole of drugs, sickness and a frenetic work pace he'd been keeping."
He then wanted to quit directing but De Niro pulled him out of it in 1980, he then made Raging Bull and got clean.
