Type 1 (Righteous) Wrath
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:36 pm
Vincent wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:57 pm Eric Clapton - I can't stand it.
At first i thought i would comment on this one last. It seemed so straightforward and kind of caricatural that i didn't knew Vincent, make post called Verbs, with section called 'Only first verb carries tense'. where to begin and what to do with it. His lover is fooling around. He is very angry. He has every right to be. He is so angry and so right to be angry that he doesn't suppress or deny it anymore, as Ones usually do (since Anger is both their Passion and their Fear).
Mmmmm...actually it's their Passion and Avoidance. Forget offhand what the Basic Fear is, but it's probably being imperfect, losing control, or being wrong.
That's it, pretty much. Pure expression of Rightheous Wrath.
For a long time, i didn't knew what else to say, besides the fact that it showed a failure to integrate 4, since there is no real sign of self-shame here, only burning envy and jealousy.
Okay but, after all, One is expected to integrate 7 before 4...
It's all about « you ». All about how defective and wrong « You » are. With no sign that this « you » might (also) be himself, or that it might be time for him to « let his feelings show ».
So should we agree that anger is not a feeling?
He is definitely the Judge here, telling « you » what is and isn't your « crime », but he hasn't integrated that he is also the Judged.
Clapton had been repeating this « i can't stand it » almost like a mantra, but it only really hit me last night after Roshan told me about Gegenstand and it's Straight to the spelling post for you Vincenzo philology/etymology and i read the german thread : a lot of One, so much of One is about standing (and not standing), with all its layers of depth and meaning, including the most literal ones.
First fixation after 9 fetal stage, One is born. Now it's there, physically incarnated in the world, and the One has to fight against gravity.
Said like a true Nine, an inveterate Nine. One (no pun intended) could even argue Nine is gravity-seeking.
It constantly has to stand up and against. And that's why One is so angry. That's also what the zeal and the worrying are about, and that's why One is so rigid. One is rigid to stay erect. It's always standing against, between the perpetual motion of 7 and the original Fall of 4. It's not only a fixation, it's quite literally a stance.
Another aspect of this, directly related to Gegenstand, is that One is the stage of the enneagram circle where things starts Put another section in the verbs post for "One 's'" to stand out. This is where the distinction between background and foreground is made, and where the platonic forms, which stands in Eternal Perfection, takes shape.
Lyrics :
You've been told
So maybe it's time that you learned
You've been sold
Maybe it's time that you earned
I can't stand it
You're fooling around, I can't stand it
You're running around, I can't stand it
You're fooling around with my heart
I'll explain
I feel like I'm being used
Make it plain
So you don't get confused
I can't stand it
You're fooling around, I can't stand it
You're running around, I can't stand it
You're fooling around with my heart
I can't stand it
You're fooling around, I can't stand it
You're running around, I can't stand it
You're fooling around with my heart
It's time
Time for me to let you know
Ain't no crime
No crime to let your feelings show
I can't stand it
You're fooling around, I can't stand it
You're running around, I can't stand it
You're fooling around with my heart
Roshan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:19 pmVincent wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:57 pm Eric Clapton - I can't stand it.
At first i thought i would comment on this one last. It seemed so straightforward and kind of caricatural that i didn't know where to begin and what to do with it. His lover is fooling around. He is very angry. He has every right to be. He is so angry and so right to be angry that he doesn't suppress or deny it anymore, as Ones usually do (since Anger is both their Passion and their Fear).
Mmmmm...actually it's their Passion and Avoidance. Forget offhand what the Basic Fear is, but it's probably being imperfect, losing control, or being wrong.
Ugh. I should have checked that. My bad
That's it, pretty much. Pure expression of Righteous Wrath.
For a long time, i didn't knew what else to say, besides the fact that it showed a failure to integrate 4, since there is no real sign of self-shame here, only burning envy and jealousy.
Okay but, after all, One is expected to integrate 7 before 4...
Yes indeed...and he doesn't seem to do that either here.
Rereading myself i realize that talking about a "failure to integrate 4" sounds like an unreasonable expectation.
Maybe it would have made a bit more sense if i had indeed presented Clapton last (and compared it to "This song", as i initially intended to.
It's all about « you ». All about how defective and wrong « You » are. With no sign that this « you » might (also) be himself, or that it might be time for him to « let his feelings show ».
So should we agree that anger is not a feeling?
No, of course anger is a feeling.
But my impression was that this line referred to more heart-centered feelings here. And in a way he does more than letting it show here. He hammers it that a Judge's gavel.
He is definitely the Judge here, telling « you » what is and isn't your « crime », but he hasn't integrated that he is also the Judged.
Clapton had been repeating this « i can't stand it » almost like a mantra, but it only really hit me last night after Roshan told me about Gegenstand and its philology/etymology and i read the german thread : a lot of One, so much of One is about standing (and not standing), with all its layers of depth and meaning, including the most literal ones.
First fixation after 9 fetal stage, One is born. Now it's there, physically incarnated in the world, and the One has to fight against gravity.
Said like a true Nine, an inveterate Nine. One (no pun intended) could even argue Nine is gravity-seeking.
Guilty as charged... And yes, that sounds absolutely right to me.
It constantly has to stand up and against. And that's why One is so angry. That's also what the zeal and the worrying are about, and that's why One is so rigid. One is rigid to stay erect. It's always standing against, between the perpetual motion of 7 and the original Fall of 4. It's not only a fixation, it's quite literally a stance.
Another aspect of this, directly related to Gegenstand, is that One is the stage of the enneagram circle where things start to stand out. This is where the distinction between background and foreground is made, and where the platonic forms, which stand in Eternal Perfection, take shape.
Lyrics :
You've been told
So maybe it's time that you learned
You've been sold
Maybe it's time that you earned
I can't stand it
You're fooling around, I can't stand it
You're running around, I can't stand it
You're fooling around with my heart
I'll explain
I feel like I'm being used
Make it plain
So you don't get confused
I can't stand it
You're fooling around, I can't stand it
You're running around, I can't stand it
You're fooling around with my heart
I can't stand it
You're fooling around, I can't stand it
You're running around, I can't stand it
You're fooling around with my heart
It's time
Time for me to let you know
Ain't no crime
No crime to let your feelings show
I can't stand it
You're fooling around, I can't stand it
You're running around, I can't stand it
You're fooling around with my heart