The first is Jack Murphy (né Goldman), who I'd see on Timcast and take such an instant aversion to I'd stop watching every time. But I just found out in Actual Justice Warrior video he tanked a lucrative hucksterish online career in a single moment of reactivity. It was on a show I happened to see once, because Kyle Rittenhouse was interviewed.
The second is this girl (the 'creator', in the thumbnail below) whose viewers asked her to opine on the incident although she knew nothing about any of the people involved and never talks about politics. Why did I think she was a so/sx 6w7-2w3-9w1 instead of a 2, 9, or 7w6 and why by the end of the vid was I all but positive I was right? And why, therefore, was what comes after the end so unsettling?
There is too much to say about both of them for now. tbcd
Re: A Tale of Two Sixes (?)
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:52 am
by Anthony
Okay, so if I'm understanding correctly, Jack Murphy is another one of these 'masculinity influencers' out of the Manosphere/Red Pill community(?) who charges lonely, disaffected men very high prices for common-sense advice on dating and being a 'real man.'
But instead of adhering to that role as strictly as possible, he counterphobically chose to write a blog article on the erotic pleasure of cuckoldry—the "courage in transparency" a la 6<-->3, expecting others to understand that, despite his sexual preferences, he still can be and IS "a true man." But since the Internet is the Internet, and since cuckoldry is cuckoldry, he got publicly humiliated for it and reactively freaked out at Sydney Watson when it was brought up.
I think it seems like Sydney might be a 2 or a 9 since, while she presumably understood the essentials of Jack's situation, she 'innocently' brought up the article as some sort of imagistic power maneuver "as a woman"—at least, it could APPEAR that way, and it may very well be the case.
However, it also seems she felt she was tomboyishly "hanging out with the guys" and brought up the article to tease him, not fully understanding how bothersome he actually found it.
Anthony wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:52 am
Okay, so if I'm understanding correctly, Jack Murphy is another one of these 'masculinity influencers' out of the Manosphere/Red Pill community(?) who charges lonely, disaffected men very high prices for common-sense advice on dating and being a 'real man.'
You're understanding this part correctly but lacking the dimensions of it, which are epic. Jack has been raking it in, apparently having refashioned himself as "Irish". His fall has been into the dark matter. This is very low Six at Three (esp with 3). The narcissism and fakery are worse than 3 lead and aren't tolerated as long because their anxiety doesn't allow them to fake well for long. Somehow the self-abasement of 6 L9 just comes.
Jack's site has been hacked and his clients have been doxxed. They have quit in droves. Photos of heavy S&M gear have (unsurprisingly) been revealed. A former client has complained he warned him two years ago about potential security breeches of the site. It appears he was the target of a criminal investigation in his former life in the field of (conventional) education. There is a reddit thread and a fake website mocking him. I'm sure there is more and will be more. It is just astonishing how quickly and thoroughly this self-demolition job happened. But none of this was reflected in the materials I'd provided so yes, you understood.
What you didn't understand was I highlighted the video I did because I was specifically interested in the creator, but should have specified I meant Star Wars Girl, not Sydney.
But instead of adhering to that role as strictly as possible, he counterphobically chose to write a blog article on the erotic pleasure of cuckoldry—the "courage in transparency" a la 6<-->3, expecting others to understand that, despite his sexual preferences, he still can be and IS "a true man."
Hmmm..yes, but people would dig it up anyway now and again and he would grumble. This time--and as "Star Wars Girl" correctly points out, it was the second time in one sitting--he went off about it.
Star Wars Girl is so far the only one I've seen to point this out--the other 'creators' I've seen being Sean in two videos plus one other---but my very strong sense from looking at comments is her take IS way out of the box. And she's right--Jack is being blamed exclusively unfairly, Sidney and Elijah are being cut too much slack. This perception seems pretty "universal". Whence the cataclysmic fall from grace.
The reason for it is the dynamics of low 6 itself. It manages to involve everyone in making itself a public scapegoat. Law of Inertia: if that swashbuckling public object (6 at 3), that loose cannon, hits L8 hysteric, that object will stay in motion until it gets properly abased at L9. And obviously, there is an arbitrariness to the scapegoating process. The scapegoat is a stand in carrier for the collective shame. Who elevated him to begin with, after all?
But since the Internet is the Internet, and since cuckoldry is cuckoldry, he got publicly humiliated for it and reactively freaked out at Sydney Watson when it was brought up.
When she brought it up the second time in one sitting with a gloating look in her eye while playing dumb and the actual show host (Elijah), who could have interceded then and there and smoothed it out, did nothing.
I think it seems like Sydney might be a 2 or a 9 since, while she presumably understood the essentials of Jack's situation, she 'innocently' brought up the article as some sort of imagistic power maneuver "as a woman"—at least, it could APPEAR that way, and it may very well be the case.
However, it also seems she felt she was tomboyishly "hanging out with the guys" and brought up the article to tease him, not fully understanding how bothersome he actually found it.
tbc she didn't technically exactly
'bring it up'. She just 'had to' read all the superchats. But she understood she was supposed to be allowed to bother him. Like I said, I saw her once before--in a very long, drawn out interview with Kyle Rittenhouse. I don't think she's a 2 or a 9. Or 6 fixed. Or social first. I think she's more likely a 7 with 1 or a 1 with 7 sp/sx with 3w4. She seems intent upon causing trouble as a moral imperative, while bringing very little except raw (but contained) sexuality and poise to the table.
But again, the girl I'm really interested in typing is Star Wars Girl, the creator of the video. I know there's little of Sidney in this video, but so/sx 6w7-2w3-9w1 still seems like a genuinely terrible typing for her, no?
Re: A Tale of Two Sixes (?)
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:39 pm
by Roshan
The way Sydney let that attack slide off of her like a duck's back is typical of her (to my limited knowledge) and seems to me non-attached, unless the attachment is 3, and non-compliant, unless the compliant is 1--and remarkably lacking in 'social shame'. She wasn't begudgingly and fetally 'unaffected' as in 'impermeable' (9); it just wasn't worth it to her. She seemed expediently unaffected, and she kept the chairperson's seat seamlessly--and judiciously.
I don't really care for these people. They're trouble makers. They were trying to get Kyle to say he was proud he killed people, to retract support for BLM, and to act very salacious in public, despite that he may still have civil suits coming and trouble getting into schools, etc., and may certainly be harassed or worse. Now they did it again.
And THIS guy, Jack...I mean, I always had a huge allergic reaction to him. Totally averse. But 'everyone', 'the Internet', the 'public square', suddenly being appalled, just appalled, because he said fuck you to this bitch? It's creepy af.
I mean I get the dynamics. It's the way 6 itself, at low 3, propels itself from 'an object in motion' into an 'object at rest' at low 9 by forcing the projected public into becoming the 'immovable object' it meets. But there's a reason the vehicle for it was these two characters, Sydney and Elijah.
I get the dynamics and they're HALF of what really interests me. The OTHER half is Star Wars Girl. But I suppose now we'll wind up going further with Sidney. I think there just isn't enough here in the clips for that though.
Re: A Tale of Two Sixes (?)
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:19 pm
by Roshan
Sidney seems to me both vampirically AND priggishly subversive.
Re: A Tale of Two Sixes (?)
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:25 pm
by Roshan
Sorry, missed the hoodie, Anthony, and you're right, she may be 2w1. Or 2w1 fixed anyway.
But 2w3 lead or fix seems really unlikely to me. She seems too icy, impassive, and severe.
edit: I thought the hoodie preceded the incident and Jack was mimicking her slogan. God, these people are raunchy.
Re: A Tale of Two Sixes (?)
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:24 pm
by Roshan
Sorry, just rewatching this Sydney really seems sp/sx 137.
L5 Rigorously, unflappably and vacuously maintaining the order of the perversity. Tooting her own horn because she reads all superchats for the sake of free speech and fairness, then goes home and tells herself she's so lucky she gets to have a job where she strikes a blow for democracy and struts her stuff while other poor stiffs have to wait tables. Many counterflow Ones clean up society by making us all a little dirtier.
The 'heartfelt' may be an overreach for integration of 4. The message is Two but the style is really not.
Re: A Tale of Two Sixes (?)
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:23 pm
by Anthony
"Hi, my name is Sydney, and welcome back to hell"
Re: A Tale of Two Sixes (?)
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:37 pm
by Roshan
"
Pinned by Sydney Watson
Sydney Watson
2 weeks ago (edited)
Jack and I exchanged some nice messages over this situation in order to resolve it the day after this incident. I was absolutely prepared to have this situation fade away, to not exacerbate anything. I've been off the Internet for about a week. But I am quite disappointed by what I've heard and feeling as though I've been thrown under the bus. There is also the matter of past writing which is a whole matter unto itself. In the end, drama is lame. But, I'd prefer to set the record straight and not be painted unfairly.
Elijah and I have spoken a lot about this. Initially we wanted to de-escalate. But, given the new information, we're totally united and will be discussing this in full detail when You Are Here is back January 3rd. Thanks for all the love. You are superstars."