Full e-type and ct?
I thought he was fireside SX/so 3w24w3-6w57w6-9w81w9. Now I think this is close but maybe not quite a cigar. This was also before I knew ct.
The sx/so 3w2 goes back to eidb. The triple attached is a later accretion of S.and me. The most common 'expert' typing now seems to be 7 which imo is foolhardy.
Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith
I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands, sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name ah yeah
But what's puzzling you
Is just the nature of my game
Stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed theTsar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
I rode a tank
Held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, ah yeah
ut what's confusing you
Is just the nature of my game, oh yeah
I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
I shouted out
Who killed the Kennedys?
When after all
It was you and me
Let me please introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
And I laid traps for troubadours
Who get killed before they reached Bombay
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah
But what's confusing you
Is just the nature of my game
Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails
Just call me Lucifer
'Cause I'm in need of some restraint
So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politnesse
Or I'll lay your soul to waste, mm yeah
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, mm yeah
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, mm mean it, get down
Woo, who
Oh yeah, get on down
Oh yeah
Aah yeah
Tell me baby, what's my name?
Tell me honey, can ya guess my name?
Tell me baby, what's my name?
I tell you one time, you're to blame
What's my name
Tell me, baby, what's my name?
Tell me, sweetie, what's my name?
Mick Jagger
Mick Jagger
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Re: Mick Jagger
So Keith Richards didn't just come up with the riffs, he came up with a central idea and lyric and then Mick wrote the song from there. Shades of Debbie Harry. I personally find Mick very Sixish, specifically wing Fivish with how gangly and awkwardly disembodied he is on stage. If I'm right about the type he's a triple attached who 'wings out' and in performance you're getting a lot of 5 and 8.
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Re: Mick Jagger
'A lot of things are said in jest'.
That is what he does Anthony. He does chuck Diet Cokes at oncoming cars. Very strong 6w5 'bad boy' character and he also does just ricochet off of other people's ideas despite the cph scowl mask.
He's another one of those people who when I look at the 7 typing makes me wonder whether some of these people read the basic literature. Classic rock--the proto punk, metal, goth style--is very, very 6w5ish. It's all about youth rebellion against authority.
7 is authority neutral.
That is what he does Anthony. He does chuck Diet Cokes at oncoming cars. Very strong 6w5 'bad boy' character and he also does just ricochet off of other people's ideas despite the cph scowl mask.
He's another one of those people who when I look at the 7 typing makes me wonder whether some of these people read the basic literature. Classic rock--the proto punk, metal, goth style--is very, very 6w5ish. It's all about youth rebellion against authority.
7 is authority neutral.
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Re: Mick Jagger
I will try to catch up with this thread tonight.
Will also download the videos to be able to watch them at work tomorrow.
Will also download the videos to be able to watch them at work tomorrow.
Re: Mick Jagger
I think in this video the order of the fixes stands out: 3w2, 6w5, 9w8. Mick seems overall too cloying and self-satisfied, bathing in the center of attention, to not be 3 lead, and specifically with the 2 wing. But there is a push/pull resistance underneath it, with an avarice component too. I see 6 >>>>>> 7. Of course I didn't mean to suggest that there are no proto-punk or metal classic rock front men idols who are 7s or Seven fixers. But if you take a Robert Plant, with the 7 behind the 3w2 twinkle in the eye you can see he's just in the experience of his interviews relative to Mick, who brings a chip on his shoulder of resistance. Mick is not 'charming' in the same way. You can think of 6 as the domain of work and 7 as the domain of play and there is a lot of effort to 'being Mick Jagger'. The biggest tell really was in the first interview when he spoke of how often he remembers this is his job. It's a duty to 'be Mick Jagger'--and with that duty comes resentment Classic bad boy rock is sort of an ersatz military. Anti-authority is its regiment and protocol.
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Re: Mick Jagger
I'm harping on this 6 v. 7 thing for Jagger because the 7 typing is so common. I not only don't even think he's 7 fixed, I don't think he even has that big of a 7 subwing if we're going to break it down that far. I think it's the 3w2, the instincts, and the triple attached that make him seem much more 'gluttonous' than he is. He seems stoic and taciturn under that image, Again, 'being Mick Jagger' is a job; as a job it implies a duty, and as a duty it carries resistance.
I am trying to think where the type could be tweaked. It stands out that he started off at the London School of Economics and was considering a career in politics or journalism, and had a scholarship in an accounting program, Later, after a couple of major disappointments with management so common in the music field, he took over supervising the business end of the Rolling Stones. But I don't think this was because of 'higher sp' as much as probably average health and the Six itself. He can't be social last and I just can't see him as not being very high sx.
So are there any tweaks to SX/so 3w24w3-6w57w6-9w81w9?
I am trying to think where the type could be tweaked. It stands out that he started off at the London School of Economics and was considering a career in politics or journalism, and had a scholarship in an accounting program, Later, after a couple of major disappointments with management so common in the music field, he took over supervising the business end of the Rolling Stones. But I don't think this was because of 'higher sp' as much as probably average health and the Six itself. He can't be social last and I just can't see him as not being very high sx.
So are there any tweaks to SX/so 3w24w3-6w57w6-9w81w9?
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