I have trouble with his ct. He seems he should be Fe dom but I don't conflict with him at all (plus he seems somewhat beta > alpha). Yet I don't see him as Si PolR and he lacks that 'razor's edge' of FeNi. Thoughts?
I also have some problems with his E-type. His fixes seem clear as a bell to me: 6w7, 9w8, and 2w3. The 9 oscillates between 8 and 1 (I suppose actual 1 wing is possible), the 2 seems to move to 3/4, and the 6 into 7. But there is wiggle room; what's clear is 269 tritype extraverting. For a while I hesitated between 6 and 9 lead but pretty sure he's a 'soft 6'; not sure however what order of fixes and stacking are. I guess so/sx with the 2 second, making a very seductive, charming 6 with a friendly but ornery watch your back sp 9w8 in the back pocket?
Which is also what makes him seem beta > alpha but...? Also, he's too roll with the punches for pronounced Ni; perhaps FeSe???
Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
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Re: Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
Here is an earlier, pre-Hard Lens media video of Kit Cabello. Haven't watched it yet but from opening he could be a 9, he could be sp/SO...he could be an alpha (but I don't conflict).,
Looking for a particular old video of his where he talks about his life so tbcd.
Looking for a particular old video of his where he talks about his life so tbcd.
Re: Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
Can't find that old vid yet but here's one where I think you can see why I said 6. Hypervigilance will win over and seems anxiety-fueled ultimately, despite teddy bear effect (which really seems 9w8, not 1 here but it varies--another reason to suspect 9 doesn't lead). Note also all the pointing, but very strategic and intermittent. Te role?
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Re: Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
In this snippet from 1'45" to 2'10" I think 6 lead shows clearly. Meander and then sharp, pointed, anxious 'But I digress'. Not a stranger to this, it happens a lot, and he's 'ready for it', he's 'on it'.
9 fixed 6 leads especially with 2w3 or 4w3 and high-ish sx synflow stackings I think can come off like a wet puppy coming in from the rain. (Mark1 has this effect).
(I suppose the option that he is actually a 2 should also be considered, even if only to reject it? He certainly has a lot of the John Travolta to him at times and 'we' on ET/AT agreed with the 2 typing of Travolta that goes around. Was that even right though...he's very gutty...but surely 269 in some order as well).
9 fixed 6 leads especially with 2w3 or 4w3 and high-ish sx synflow stackings I think can come off like a wet puppy coming in from the rain. (Mark1 has this effect).
(I suppose the option that he is actually a 2 should also be considered, even if only to reject it? He certainly has a lot of the John Travolta to him at times and 'we' on ET/AT agreed with the 2 typing of Travolta that goes around. Was that even right though...he's very gutty...but surely 269 in some order as well).
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Re: Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
I agree with So/Sx 6w7-2w3-9w8. The 6 should lead, IMO; he's VERY energetically heady (energy concentrated in the head), even with his voice, and doesn't seem like a 9 lead to me. This seems like somebody with a [healthy] self-narrative/drama around being heroic.
I see why you're having trouble deciding between 9w8 and 9w1. He probably DOES have an Sp 9wEIGHT in the back pocket, masked by the softness engendered by high Sx synflow 6w7 lead, Sp last, and Fe dominance (which seems very clear—he could easily be my dual or semi-dual).
Though...in comparison to Sabby Sabs, he actually seems more 9w1ish here:
(I'm finishing up this interview, and I'm wondering if Kit seems more 9w1ish because they're contraries and he's an Fe dom alpha trying to ingratiate himself to a gamma Fi lead)
Personally, I think it's 6w7(5w6), 2w3(3w4), and 9w8(1w9). Despite his charm, he strikes me as just a bit too reticent and dorky for 6w7 moving into 7. He almost seems 6w5ish to me, coming close to fitting the archetype of the Petersonian midnight rider cowboy with a pocket knife in the boot, and he LOOKS like it in the first video.
I see why you're having trouble deciding between 9w8 and 9w1. He probably DOES have an Sp 9wEIGHT in the back pocket, masked by the softness engendered by high Sx synflow 6w7 lead, Sp last, and Fe dominance (which seems very clear—he could easily be my dual or semi-dual).
Though...in comparison to Sabby Sabs, he actually seems more 9w1ish here:
(I'm finishing up this interview, and I'm wondering if Kit seems more 9w1ish because they're contraries and he's an Fe dom alpha trying to ingratiate himself to a gamma Fi lead)
Personally, I think it's 6w7(5w6), 2w3(3w4), and 9w8(1w9). Despite his charm, he strikes me as just a bit too reticent and dorky for 6w7 moving into 7. He almost seems 6w5ish to me, coming close to fitting the archetype of the Petersonian midnight rider cowboy with a pocket knife in the boot, and he LOOKS like it in the first video.
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Re: Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
I actually think the major factor out of all the softeners is sx 2w3(3w4).Anthony wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:50 pm
I see why you're having trouble deciding between 9w8 and 9w1. He probably DOES have an Sp 9wEIGHT in the back pocket, masked by the softness engendered by high Sx synflow 6w7 lead, Sp last, and Fe dominance
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(I'm finishing up this interview, and I'm wondering if Kit seems more 9w1ish because....
He seems more 9w1ish elsewhere too. Haven't watched that Sabby Sabs discussion yet though so tbc. Good find.
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Re: Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
FeSe seems quite likely to me, especially from the first and third videos (i didn't watch the last twos yet).
He does indeed sound more beta than alpha and Si polr doesn't seem impossible to me either.
"Defeating The Neoliberal Smear Campaign Against Rogan" actually sounds like something an Si polr "canary in the coal mine" with some degree of polr as power would want to do.
That being said... i get a very different impression from the second video.
I guess if i had only seen this one i would have been tempted to type him as FeSi, even if he doesn't quite feel like my possible supervisee, or maybe even SiFe.
The later is certainly not right though. I absolutely agree his finger pointing really looks like Te role. Te polr seems pretty much out of question.
E-wise So/Sx 6w7 2w3 9w8 seems right to me too, so far.
Will watch more soon.
tbcd.
He does indeed sound more beta than alpha and Si polr doesn't seem impossible to me either.
"Defeating The Neoliberal Smear Campaign Against Rogan" actually sounds like something an Si polr "canary in the coal mine" with some degree of polr as power would want to do.
That being said... i get a very different impression from the second video.
I guess if i had only seen this one i would have been tempted to type him as FeSi, even if he doesn't quite feel like my possible supervisee, or maybe even SiFe.
The later is certainly not right though. I absolutely agree his finger pointing really looks like Te role. Te polr seems pretty much out of question.
E-wise So/Sx 6w7 2w3 9w8 seems right to me too, so far.
Will watch more soon.
tbcd.
Re: Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
'Trying' doesn't seem to be quite the right word (by 4'40''). They seem drawn and driven to ingratiate each other. Like ingratiation is preordained, as with mirages in the honeymoon phase. I still think FeSe for Kit. tbcd
ps This post crossed with Vincent's.
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Re: Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
Hmmmm...well, I'm beginning to lean toward FeSe.
I agree he doesn't quite seem Si PoLR, but it seems even less likely that he's Ni PoLR; there's this way in which, when talking about a given topic, he'll list [most of] his observations to Sabby and ultimately collapse them into a call for action with a vision reaching 'far-enough,' inciting the viewers to participate in a sort of collective heroes journey. It seems both like 'jumping over' Ni and striving for Se 'impact.'
It's not quite what FeSi's seem to do; if he were FeSi, I'd expect to see more alpha-ish, NeTi-ish 'precision bickering' over fact and detail, trying to 'make a case' as it were. Actually, Kit doesn't seem to do this at all, which may be because he's Si PoLR...
Beta > Alpha, atm. He joined the military straight out of high school after not knowing what he wanted to do, and now he's doing all this^. I get this feeling that life is a perpetual 'initiation rite' for him, which seems consistent with Beta > Alpha, Social 6 lead, and Se agenda.
I agree he doesn't quite seem Si PoLR, but it seems even less likely that he's Ni PoLR; there's this way in which, when talking about a given topic, he'll list [most of] his observations to Sabby and ultimately collapse them into a call for action with a vision reaching 'far-enough,' inciting the viewers to participate in a sort of collective heroes journey. It seems both like 'jumping over' Ni and striving for Se 'impact.'
It's not quite what FeSi's seem to do; if he were FeSi, I'd expect to see more alpha-ish, NeTi-ish 'precision bickering' over fact and detail, trying to 'make a case' as it were. Actually, Kit doesn't seem to do this at all, which may be because he's Si PoLR...
Beta > Alpha, atm. He joined the military straight out of high school after not knowing what he wanted to do, and now he's doing all this^. I get this feeling that life is a perpetual 'initiation rite' for him, which seems consistent with Beta > Alpha, Social 6 lead, and Se agenda.
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Re: Kit Cabello (Hard Lens Media)
Agreed. It seems like they relate to one another first and foremost on the Ni-Se axis, vision and action, but NOT through Thinking and Feeling. That's why they're able to mirage.