Melania Trump

[Roshan]

Presumably, you all know her. My typing for her is sp/sx 3w4(2w3)-6w5(5w4)-9w1(8w9), TeNi creative subtype. I got to the E-typing with "S." So a very Ninish 3 due to 9 fix and double lines to 9, and a very sexual 6-like E Three Mannequin.. Also, that midstream sp/sx 'binger' is very close to SP/sx 'ascetic'--she has a VERY heavy 'sp cover'.

I always found this article on her photography very interesting. Thoughts?

https://qz.com/960985/a-deep-analysis-o ... the-world/

[Jonathan]

I'm not the best person to keep a large data-set around people, I do think there something 'professional' here though. It's unfortunate that we have so little to work with, from the beginning, which in a way does feed into lack of 'faux pas' that would make it easy. English probably isn't even her second language; read, how else is she to respond to this situation?

She is very regal, for lack of a better word, which seems too masculine and the feminine equivalent escapes me. Grace doesn't exactly hit either.

One of the most personal things she did, I'm sure you remember it.... the jacket. What was it, Hermes or Versace (of course), "I don't really care, do you?" I'm willing to entertain 'tri-fix' here, this double-9.... being there and a low-side line. Double passive aggression? Leave me alone, you don't know me. The double-down. Who cares, it doesn't matter, she's resigned.

It stands to reason, she never asked for any of it, but at the same time hitched her wagon to the opportunism of proximity itself. Lots male/female dynamics here.

Suffice, it's as if the whole period was, in the Queen's English, every bit annus horribilus (4x). A very unsuccessful (Sp) period, hog-tied from the get, no privacy to achieve anything, and certainly not when you're competing with the zealots that put pen to paper every day. Nothing regal there, those are the dogs.

Michelle Obaba... she ain't too far off, just a different stack, higher Soc? different fix perhaps, certainly a different background. We should blame Nancy Reagan and Hillary for it even being a topic. An accident of Feminism? Of course they are affecting their men, why not?

The only difference here is that Melania was hooked up with the first '8' President since Teddy Roosevelt.

[Roshan]

I'm not the best person to keep a large data-set around people, I do think there something 'professional' here though. It's unfortunate that we have so little to work with, from the beginning, which in a way does feed into lack of 'faux pas' that would make it easy. English probably isn't even her second language; read, how else is she to respond to this situation?

Well, there are a few interviews and speeches, and normally I would have put more here but I really wanted people to think about those Instagram photos from pre-DT candidacy, as they do seem to provide a window into her inner world--which seems rather phantasmagorical. This should be due to having a very heavy 'sp cover' on social last, 4 wing on the lead, a heavy 9 component, and 6 'with a very big 5 wing'. There is also something like a hole in the center of the being of a triple attached; the more extraverted ones often 'never stop doing' to avoid it; the more introverted ones really feel it.

No, English isn't even her second language iirc but that she didn't feel compelled to learn it very well also says something about her 'hermit crab-like' personality. Obviously I don't agree with all of the article writer's perspective nor do I think it delved that deep, but I do think that crab being the only animal (other than racing horses) Melania posted on her Instagram is far from trivial.

She is very regal, for lack of a better word, which seems too masculine and the feminine equivalent escapes me. Grace doesn't exactly hit either.

Aristocratic? Queenly? Royal? Of the manor born?

One of the most personal things she did, I'm sure you remember it.... the jacket. What was it, Hermes or Versace (of course)

It was Zara, which was part of the joke, since she knew it would be commented on no end. So she went to see very poor kids at the border wearing a pretty cheap coat, parodying the 'uncaring rich trophy wife' with a clear (but ironic) marketing orientation right on her back and in your face. If you got the joke, fine. If you didn't, fine too.

, "I don't really care, do you?" I'm willing to entertain 'tri-fix' here, this double-9.... being there and a low-side line. Double passive aggression? Leave me alone, you don't know me. The double-down. Who cares, it doesn't matter, she's resigned.

She was resigned that she was going to be seen as a comic book villainess by those who wished to and there was nothing she could ever do to change that, so she wasn't risking anything, couldn't LOSE any popularity, by wearing the words in the cartoon balloon on her back. But it was also a multi-layered, deft piece of messaging that was irresistible to some very few who were swayable, especially the Zara part--which is (part of) why I think the order 369 is right: marketing, then irony, and resignation last. She certainly, if not won me over, made me an 'interested observer'. I never disliked her after that.


It stands to reason, she never asked for any of it, but at the same time hitched her wagon to the opportunism of proximity itself.

Hermit crab cannot stray from the shell. That said, when she finally did make her own project as first lady, it was for kids and was called 'Be Best' (another point for 3 lead).

Lots male/female dynamics here.

Suffice, it's as if the whole period was, in the Queen's English, every bit annus horribilus (4x). A very unsuccessful (Sp) period, hog-tied from the get, no privacy to achieve anything, and certainly not when you're competing with the zealots that put pen to paper every day. Nothing regal there, those are the dogs.

[Jonathan]

Yes thank you, aristocratic, royal, but not the QE2 royal sense, its without duty. Perhaps somewhat more post-Soviet bloc royal Assumed class.

I hadn't considered the early photography/modelling as a point of reference and those are game as well, perhaps more so. Of which she seems to embody a mysterious quality, and keeping with the First Lady images-over-words messaging.... marketing orientation, visual currencies, the disengagement of a Soc-last stack in spite of all the attachments, actions will paint the images.

Which remains congruent with her intimate relationship choices. No I don't see 'kept woman' either, rather a provided woman. I would speculate that Donald loses quite a few arguments, hers being a steely withdraw served with emotional will. Just like the jacket, and I forgot the mention the 'pussy willow', again 'calculated imagery' messaging, wow this gal enjoys a good troll! Don't hold my hand is another one, albeit closer to home.

Actually, but for The Donald it might've some billionaire oligarch from the near homeland.(??) minus the access and proximity unfortunately. Then again, maybe that wouldn't have been classy enough to suit her fine tastes either, she's just a little too worldly. There she have been a kept-woman.

Hermit crabs lead mysterious lives, we have no idea what's going on in that hole! Be that as it may, the sophistication, soft (passive) aggression, the complex cerebral tete-a-tete is definitely consistent with your assessments.

[Vincent]

I'm not the best person to keep a large data-set around people, I do think there something 'professional' here though. It's unfortunate that we have so little to work with, from the beginning, which in a way does feed into lack of 'faux pas' that would make it easy. English probably isn't even her second language; read, how else is she to respond to this situation?

Well, there are a few interviews and speeches, and normally I would have put more here but I really wanted people to think about those Instagram photos from pre-DT candidacy, as they do seem to provide a window into her inner world--which seems rather phantasmagorical. This should be due to having a very heavy 'sp cover' on social last, 4 wing on the lead, a heavy 9 component, and 6 'with a very big 5 wing'. There is also something like a hole in the center of the being of a triple attached; the more extraverted ones often 'never stop doing' to avoid it; the more introverted ones really feel it.

No, English isn't even her second language iirc but that she didn't feel compelled to learn it very well also says something about her 'hermit crab-like' personality. Obviously I don't agree with all of the article writer's perspective nor do I think it delved that deep, but I do think that crab being the only animal (other than racing horses) Melania posted on her Instagram is far from trivial.

Well, the author of the article is a tad too obviously happy to paint Trump into an Ogre for me to believe that Melania is Rapunzel (minus the hair and the prince).
But yeah, that hermit crab picture is pretty damning and certainly not trivial. Actually, i'm not even sure i would have guessed it was an hermit crab in that photography. That image itself is quite cryptic and alien-like.
Almost SP/sx definitely seems right to me.

I don't really buy that she looks at the world from above and behind either. Or that the weird angles and the repetitions are just about hiding and not moving. There is too much precision and complexity about it, something quite byzantine. It seems to me that she is looking at the world, studying it and sketching it through the lenses of a kaleidoscope, or through the segmented eyes of something not quite human. There is definitely quite a lot of disorientation and "Hole factor" here.
3w4 lead, and head deep in 5 also makes perfect sense to me.

, "I don't really care, do you?" I'm willing to entertain 'tri-fix' here, this double-9.... being there and a low-side line. Double passive aggression? Leave me alone, you don't know me. The double-down. Who cares, it doesn't matter, she's resigned.

She was resigned that she was going to be seen as a comic book villainess by those who wished to and there was nothing she could ever do to change that, so she wasn't risking anything, couldn't LOSE any popularity, by wearing the words in the cartoon balloon on her back. But it was also a multi-layered, deft piece of messaging that was irresistible to some very few who were swayable, especially the Zara part--which is (part of) why I think the order 369 is right: marketing, then irony, and resignation last. She certainly, if not won me over, made me an 'interested observer'. I never disliked her after that.

Yes, i also agree with the 369 tritype, in that order. Gotta keep spinning .... over the heads of the spin doctors.
I wasn't aware at all of the Jacket thing before, but i can definitely see why you never disliked her after that. She is "growing on me" pretty fast actually.

[Vincent]

Which remains congruent with her intimate relationship choices. No I don't see 'kept woman' either, rather a provided woman. I would speculate that Donald loses quite a few arguments, hers being a steely withdraw served with emotional will. Just like the jacket, and I forgot the mention the 'pussy willow', again 'calculated imagery' messaging, wow this gal enjoys a good troll! Don't hold my hand is another one, albeit closer to home.

Well, interestingly enough, the "Don't hold my hand" one also crossed the Atlantic. I was already aware of this one because all the medias here in France were talking about it at the time. Of course they tried to use it to shed some negative light on Trump, and were desperate to dig some dirt about the couple, but it wasn't just that. I suspect my archetypally very 3w4 country was just fascinated by Melania herself.

Anyway, i wouldn't be surprised at all if you were right about their household dynamics. She would "be best" and he would lose quite a few arguments indeed.

[Jonathan]

I'm not sure 'the best' is front of mind for her, maybe not socially at least. Funny you say, I want to use that to 'cross-post' on the 2 Pride thread. (setting up my obligations)

[Anthony]

I agree completely with sp/sx 3w4(2w3)-6w5(5w4)-9w1(8w9). Yes, almost SP/sx is correct, I think. She So/Sp 'presides,' but I never get the feeling with her that the collective isn't 'just' a nuisance, an intrusive swarm to imagistically placate and troll. If she wasn't married specifically to Trump, she probably wouldn't feel compelled or even 'allowed' to do that; being a social-last triple-attached, she seems to be counterflow-ishly and resignedly meeting HIS poor collective expectations.

With every performance—deception—there's a front stage and a backstage, and Melania intentionally, seductively, and ultimately sp/sx-ishly muddies that dividing wall. "There IS something going on behind the scenes, but you only get a peek." She's not Repunzel, nor is she any kind of comic-book villainess, but yeah...she's one hell of a (soft) troll with a pinch of (soft) sadism. If everyone decided that she was "the most hated woman in America," she would gladly and opportunistically accept that role, but probably not without Trump as support. This seems Sx 6ish; she needs a "partner in crime, in rebellion."

Sx 6 moving all the way into 5 becomes Sx 5 "secrets," supporting Sp 3 lead "fashion as armor" (which Roshan discussed in a PM), with Social 9 'mere participation' last. This makes perfect sense to me.