Terra Incognita

Universally typed as a Four, DG back in 2012 was saying she was an 8. In retrospect, I think this was because on eidb you had to wear an apron and hold a tray of cookies to be a Two. (And I know that was because the narrower you made the compliant and attached types, except for 9, the more space you gave for eidb members and your favorite people to be the groovy types).

atm I would type her as sp/SX 2w33w4-9w18w9-7w68w9, 2@4, FeNi in FiNe. But I'm not at all sure of the details since she did not write the song--though it WAS written for her--and the interviews I've seen aren't translated, so I didn't understand everything (yet). I do feel she's most likely a feisty little sp 2w3 'doll', high on the sx and gravelly beta 'gangster moll' style--first cousin to the femme fatale torch singer routinely associated with sx 2 back on eidb without any examples of it ever being offered. tbcd

Roshan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:43 am atm I would type her as sp/SX 2w33w4-9w18w9-7w68w9, 2@4, FeNi in FiNe.

I'm pretty positive the ct is right and the e-type also seems right to me.

But I'm not at all sure of the details since she did not write the song--though it WAS written for her--and the interviews I've seen aren't translated, so I didn't understand everything (yet).

She did write "la vie en rose", which is extremely Two-ish and fits the 927 gestalt very very well.

I do feel she's most likely a feisty little sp 2w3 'doll', high on the sx and gravelly beta 'gangster moll' style--first cousin to the femme fatale torch singer routinely associated with sx 2 back on eidb without any examples of it ever being offered. tbcd

She was nicknamed "la môme" in French, which is a term we would normally use for unruly preteens, like the ones who used to roam the streets of Paris freely, waiting to be adopted by "les apaches" a few years later.
She identify Vincentherself with them in a few of her songs btw. For example Les Hiboux

And speaking of Hiboux (owls) a Piaf is a small baby bird in our slang. Definitely not a Vincent8 name...

Here's the English translation.

https://www.frenchlyricstranslations.co ... anslation/