What is Tahanie Aboushi's complete e-type and ct? (She did not win the election). Choose one lead type, one trifix, one stacking, and one ct. Make sure you choose FOUR votes. Don't look at any other information on her until after you vote or discuss with anyone until voting closes next Sunday, 2/27, at 6 pm NYC time.
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Gram the Grownup #3 Tahanie Aboushi
Gram the Grownup #3 Tahanie Aboushi
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Sorry, Jonathan. I thought I added the tag.
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I'm really not concerned about the stacking. I had a pretty eccentric reason for choosing so/sx that I'll get to later; I was hardly convinced myself and my initial impression, for a long time, was sx last. My issue is the lead type. That's a quiet pit bull. Guttiest gut. Just look at her jaw. 8 all the way in 9 but still 8. I also don't understand why 3 and not 2. Seems very clear 2 fix to me, probably moving all the way into 3, but still 2. Not a case of 'the 2 is in the 8' but 2 and 8.
With all this being compatible with Se dominant. If not SeFi, my next guess was SeTi, as in SeFe jumping over Ti, thus heightening Te. FeNi would be distant third though I considered it at first.
With all this being compatible with Se dominant. If not SeFi, my next guess was SeTi, as in SeFe jumping over Ti, thus heightening Te. FeNi would be distant third though I considered it at first.
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I went with the so/sp, 1w9, for no other reason than the social justice reforms aspect, along with various other subtle messaging that 'it should be this way'. The political aspirations lead me to the 3/6 fixes.... I'm ambitious, there's a bad guy out there. Simplistic, but for me just elemental. I would need to see how she actually asserts herself beyond an interview.
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Here's another one where she's not looking down into the laptop so maybe you'll get more of the sense of the forward thrust. Center of the moving center; a mack truck with a muffler imho. (No, I didn't watch anything else before, or talk to anyone else about her).
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This woman is a bull moose. Not head-centered and not 'driving with the brakes on' (One space). BUT with a lotta 'virtue Innocence'.
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She doesn't seem expansive enough to me for 8. She's not picking a fight but rather trying to appeal to a moral imperative, using reason, the bull-headed-ness is the closed off nature of 1 to anything that does not meet the correctness of this thing, in its entirety, unreasonable to mitigating factors, but measured and sober in message. But I've been wrong before! Just my impressions.
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She's at healthy levels Jonathan. High 8 integrates 5. Way too casual, straight forward motion for One. Anger and its restraint are non-issues for her. Easy come, easy go. And intermittently throughout second video, lust leaks. This won't happen with a low sx 1.
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Re: Gram the Grownup #3
I initially thought her type to be 6w5 9w8 2w3 sp/so TeSi. But after watching the second video and the looking at the first video again, this woman is not a head type and is most likely head fix last. I do see more of the forward thrust of her movements compared to the first video due to the camera angle and that she's interacting with other people, in the flesh, in studio. You can see how she moves, relates to other people, and how her energy overpowers and expands. She's definitely in her element when she's 'riffing off' other people in person. So with that being said, I do agree with 8w9 core with 2w3 and probably 6w5. The points and arguments that she brings up are very straightforward and brass tacks, she doesn't really elaborate on the details and nuances of them. She has strong convictions and the more important thing is to implement these values rather than focus on the theoretical/ideological framework that backbone them. Any sort of justification for them stems from her personal experience and empirical evidence. All of this aligns with SeFi. I initially chose TeSi because her ct didn't hit me right away but what stuck out to me was Te/Fi and strong sensing. I was actually tempted to choose TeNi (TeSe).
I remember (if I'm remembering this correctly) Eli saying that the motto of 8 was "I'm competent" and she seems more than able to handle anything that comes her way, like she has this innate and natural confidence that nothing is really that insurmountable.
I remember (if I'm remembering this correctly) Eli saying that the motto of 8 was "I'm competent" and she seems more than able to handle anything that comes her way, like she has this innate and natural confidence that nothing is really that insurmountable.
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I completely agree with this.Roshan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:10 pm My issue is the lead type. That's a quiet pit bull. Guttiest gut. Just look at her jaw. 8 all the way in 9 but still 8. I also don't understand why 3 and not 2. Seems very clear 2 fix to me, probably moving all the way into 3, but still 2. Not a case of 'the 2 is in the 8' but 2 and 8.
The tritype, 268 Exerting Affection, is the part of my vote that came to me first. It seemed very likely to me from her physical presence in the thumbnail and from the first few minutes of the first video, when i watched it the first time.
She struck me as extremely gutty and very embodied. Proud and bold. Something like a Mama Bear, and not from the teddybear kind.
That first impression got confirmed when i rewatched it later.
I did consider 9w8(8w7), but only very briefly and as a second guess.
I also considered that she might lead with 2, but that didn't last much either.
At that point i was pretty convinced she was 8w9 2w3 6w7 in that order.
I did think the head might be 6w5, but it seemed to me that the "trucker" aspect was in the 8 itself (and its line to 5). She seemed genuinely and extremely self-confident, in a way that seems impossible to fake, and with virtually no "counterphobia".
I was (and i still am) a lot less sure about her instinct stacking, but sx last seemed more likely than the two alternatives.
I went with sp/so because i didn't see a truly compelling reason to think she was counterflow.
I also thought it would make sense in term of stack/fix correlation : she insists a lot on the absolute necessity of a strong-willed, unflenching leadership, ready to face reality and get its hands dirty, and she knows she is one of those born leaders, but there is remarkably little "me" factor there. Also, a lot of what she says is ultimately and very concretely about protecting family as the smallest most basic unit of survival.
Se dominance was also my first impression. And if i had voted right after i watched the video the first time, i think maybe i would have voted SeFe.With all this being compatible with Se dominant. If not SeFi, my next guess was SeTi, as in SeFe jumping over Ti, thus heightening Te. FeNi would be distant third though I considered it at first.
Then it becomes more and more obvious that she had an "origin story" that made her larger-than-life and gave her a mission that is even bigger than that. A "David vs Goliath" aspect that we have seen with SeFi before, but definitely not with SeTi.
It also became more and more obvious to me that she wasn't a TErminatrix, as i would expect SeFe to be. I mean you get the feeling she might destroy a few things in her wake, but she would then rebuild them stone by stone.
Also, there is no beta dare and no subservience complex here, Gamma maturity makes a lot more sense.
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