Terra Incognita

Well, I'm pretty sure he's TeNi but @Vincent thinks he might be NeFi in NiFe shadow. Here are three videos. The first two are part of a shitload of his preaching from the Osho International Foundation. I'm only including the second because of the thumbnail--those eyes. I haven't watched it yet. The third one is the only actual interview I could find, not that he's any different in it. I would also like to discuss what is going on with his Fi.

Well well....

While i was watching those videos it became more and more obvious the NeFi in NiFe couldnt work and that Gamma was likely to be right.
No way it could be "just" Se role.

But i still couldn't see how (the hell) this guy could be my supervisor, in any way, shape and configuration.
It was also too simplistic to actually be Te frame.

Then for some reason, the music of "Conquest of Paradise" of Vangelis started playing in my mind while i was watching and i realized that sometimes, in some pictures, those two are actually similar.
And it hit me : He is SeFi. Out to conquer the world and build an empire, after he got some Ni inferior epiphany sitting under a tree...
A Gamma Baron using some very deliberate Te and constantly playing with Ne role trickster shtik and un-ignoring Si both to keep his guard up, and to hypnotize.

Vincent wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 11:20 am Well well....

While i was watching those videos it became more and more obvious the NeFi in NiFe couldnt work and that Gamma was likely to be right.
No way it could be "just" Se role.

No, it couldn't be. I was aware of this from the start.

Vincent wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 11:20 am But i still couldn't see how (the hell) this guy could be my supervisor, in any way, shape and configuration.
It was also too simplistic to actually be Te frame.

I was also aware it was too simplistic for Te frame but I was thinking he was Te'ing in his own head how to simplify things to sound mysterious, aphoristic (Ni), and alluring. I did not consider but what if that's just him?

Vincent wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 11:20 am Then for some reason, the music of "Conquest of Paradise" of Vangelis started playing in my mind while i was watching and i realized that sometimes, in some pictures, those two are actually similar.
And it hit me : He is SeFi. Out to conquer the world and build an empire, after he got some Ni inferior epiphany sitting under a tree...

As soon as you said this I knew it was right. He actually does have a PoLR "T"; he isn't just putting on a show. But it's all about power (Se). The hypnotic quality comes from an Se fixation on an Ni revelation; it's not instrumental Ni 'tool' as I thought. And now I don't need to discuss his Fi because Fi tool makes perfect sense. Internal feelings and values is what he wields expediently to keep his followers entranced. The Ni is embedded in the Se lead.

TeNi has Fe role and Ne demonstrative; SeFi has Fe demonstrative and Ne role. TeNi has Te frame and Se agenda; SeFi has Se frame and Te agenda. Clearly for me a case of which witch is which. He actually has energetic similarities on the one hand to the impermeable stoic Eightness of SeFi Russell Dobular (at least when Rajneesh's eyes aren't popping out of his head, and tbc Russell has folded Asiatic eyelids), and on the other to the solid permeability of the aphoristic 9w8(1w9) SeFi Caitlin Johnstone's warmth. Which brings us to...

Vincent wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 11:20 am A Gamma Baron using some very deliberate Te and constantly playing with Ne role trickster shtik and un-ignoring Si both to keep his guard up, and to hypnotize.

Tbc it isn't Si itself that is hypnotic; it's the fixated Ni, but I believe you mean the slowness and the coddling 'warmth' of his speech that he uses hypnotically. And by using Si to keep his guard up, you mean Si as boundary.

I am unable to copy images since right after I posted this one (hope it's not Rajneesh's ghost playing tricks on me ) but let that kid's expression sink in.

This page has a lot of photos of young (and just younger) Rajneesh, along with a lot of revealing, though perhaps embellished, information on him. It's interesting how as a young student, then teacher, of philosophy he looks much less Se heavy and easily TeNi--also easily in his debating. And he looks rather dour, morose, and skeptical--likewise in the photo of him as a teen--corroborating my long-held belief that he was a Six extremely 'at' highly narcissistic Three. This in contrast to my having just been mulling over wait, was he a 7w8?

Other young photos with info if you will here. Wait for the first image to rotate, it has five of them. One is surprising and oc I can't corroborate it. The page links to his book Glimpses of a Golden Childhood, which the page author characterizes simply as a "childhood of 'rebellion". As dour as he seems to have been before he became a guru, I would hate to see how he would have been if he had had an unhappy childhood. Up til his guruhood young Rajneesh seems like a typical Six to me. (And then he seems like an sx 6w7 guru winging out on his 7w8 subwing).

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:34 am I am unable to copy images since right after I posted this one (hope it's not Rajneesh's ghost playing tricks on me ) but let that kid's expression sink in.

Well, after I inserted that into the photo post, I went to check how it came out and "(hope it's not Rajneesh's ghost playing tricks on me )" just wasn't there. So I went into 'edit' mode to see if it was there and it was and I copied it; when I came back to the post it was there again. Kinda you had to be there, it loses in the telling. Well, I will call it a coincidence but one I wanted to document.

I mean for all I know he was the avatar of an eternal Being of Light, but he seems like a narcissist to me and that is how I see him typewise. I don't see him at high Three, though I do see Three up the wazoo. And I don't see him with an SiFe aura; I see him expediently using his shadow functions for manipulation purposes.

I could be wrong. Or better yet he could be both.

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:55 am The page links to his book Glimpses of a Golden Childhood

And there is also a book by him there, Philosophia Perennis, with this blurb: Osho describes Pythagoras as "a seeker of truth par excellence," who lived in Alexandria and was initiated into the mystery schools of Egypt. He then traveled to India, Tibet and China - at that time the whole known world - until he became self-realized. He found the "Perennial Philosophy" but was persecuted by his own society. The fragments of his teachings were collected after his death and written down by a disciple in The Golden Verses of Pythagoras. In his commentary, Osho expounds on the idea of the East and West as representatives of the brain′s two hemispheres, and on the two Pythagorean laws - of necessity and power.


We know almost nothing about Pythagoras' life. And Huxley wrote The Perennial Philosophy in 1945. I had a vision once that Europe was the left brain and Asia the right brain of Eurasia, and Persia was the severed corpus callosum. Zoroastrianism held the (a) key. But he became the Bhagwan and I...well...I'll be honest. The reason I first thought Osho was a Six was because I could have seen myself becoming just like him, including the cult and the Rollses and the orgies, if I had been more grounded in my megalomania.

In this photo from a facebook page we catch him during the university years at an angle where we can see he looks SeFi > TeNi. By a nose.

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:32 pm

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:55 am The page links to his book Glimpses of a Golden Childhood

And there is also a book by him there, Philosophia Perennis, with this blurb: Osho describes Pythagoras as "a seeker of truth par excellence," who lived in Alexandria and was initiated into the mystery schools of Egypt. He then traveled to India, Tibet and China - at that time the whole known world - until he became self-realized. He found the "Perennial Philosophy" but was persecuted by his own society. The fragments of his teachings were collected after his death and written down by a disciple in The Golden Verses of Pythagoras. In his commentary, Osho expounds on the idea of the East and West as representatives of the brain′s two hemispheres, and on the two Pythagorean laws - of necessity and power.

Well this sounds quite Si polr but the thing is there is an history to those fantasies about Pythagoras in India and China. It seems closer to Gurdjieff's grandiose claims of ancestral wisdom than to anything we ever caught Peterson doing.

Also, if you follow the "excerpt" link for this book on the site you'll find a text where Rajneesh is going on and on and on about the "New Man", in a way that sounds almost Maoist-ish.

We know almost nothing about Pythagoras' life. And Huxley wrote The Perennial Philosophy in 1945. I had a vision once that Europe was the left brain and Asia the right brain of Eurasia, and Persia was the severed corpus callosum. Zoroastrianism held the (a) key. But he became the Bhagwan and I...well...I'll be honest. The reason I first thought Osho was a Six was because I could have seen myself becoming just like him, including the cult and the Rollses and the orgies, if I had been more grounded in my megalomania.

Hmm that makes me wonder what, if anything, his eclectism did with Zoroastrianism.
I can certainly see some similarities (and he is definitely a sx 6w7(7w8) but i'm not quite sure he "got the key", so to speak.

Roshan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:44 pm In this photo from a facebook page we catch him during the university years at an angle where we can see he looks SeFi > TeNi. By a nose.

In this pic he looks uncannily similar to one of the few students i had and typed as SeFi with pretty strong certainty.
And for the record, that guy was feared by almost all teachers because he was a fierce contrarian and... a very agile debater.
Him and me reached some kind of very productive truce early on, which makes sense intertype-wise.